lols - lost all the comments, but it got comment technically awkward anyways:) MM I love the stories, please don't stop AND I am waiting on the next update on either story like someone on the edge:) lols x
Awesome news to hear, no need to apologize I think everyone here knows that you have events in your life that you need to take care off and that BT and SW are hobbies you enjoy working on and sharing. Thanks for the update MM and can't wait to see it.
Hope everyone here is having a great Memorial Day. Sorry MasterMeat but I'm going to have to ask the question that's probably on everyone's mind and ask how the newest chapter to Brainy Teen is coming along?
More seriously, I'm waiting for the next chapter ! I didn't let a feedback next time because I'm waiting to see where the story will go. I will just say that I really enjoyed it, especially the idea about Wendy's "cosncience" telling her that her mother is a lesbian. It's much more funny if Wendy is the one who will doubt about her mother's sexual tastes, and act as if she was the one who found this. I hope we will see a bit more of Madelynn's and Wendy's moms in the next chapter. In my opinion, it's time to do some events with them. ;)
Thanks MasterMeat for your stories. I'll wait, as usual.
Thanks for the update MM, hopefully we'll get to see the new chapter by the end of the week *crosses fingers* From your reply I'm going to speculate that chapter 18 might be lengthy if you had to break it down into 2 parts. That really has me anxious to read it.
Great to hear from you Youpla, and loved your youtube link. Also agree with your opinion that Wendy and Madelynn's mothers need to start getting more involved or start to participate with their daughters lesbian mind control education.
So while we're eagerly awaiting the newest Brainy Teen chapter. Thought I'd ask an question and get opinions on it. So a few days ago me and a friend were watching some 80's action show and the premise is that the main character's best friend is kidnapped by some shadow organization and brainwashed into a secret assassin and it's up the main character, I think his name was Mac, to stop it. Anyways the whole thing lead into a discussion about mind control and this is where it kind of split. Does anyone here think that body control should count as mind control? What I mean is, if someone is controlling your body and moving your body against your will and your mind and persona is still intact, is that mind control? Me, personally I say no, but my friend argues that it does. Figure I'd get an opinion here.
Agree with MM that it's a bit of a gray area. One can argue that body control can be seen as mind control because you have someone's mind controlling a body that is not their own, but that's probably were it stops. With mind control a foreign mind is now in charge of the target's mind. Example, you have a person who doesn't like to eat carrots. With body control you control that person's body to eat the carrot but that's person's mind still dislikes carrots. With mind control the person's mind is now altered to enjoy eating carrots. In the end it's really going to be a matter of how it's used, what results of the control and if the audience believes it to be apart of mind control or not to determine if body control can be seen as mind control.
Domino, your definition of body control is why my friend believes that body control is mind control and not a different form of control all together. She perceives that a mind controlling a body and/or mind is mind control regardless if the victim's mind is being altered. Times like this I really wish I could mind control people :p
Well, this is a gray area for me. Body control could be considered mind control because the human mind could be influenced by bodily sensations. A person's mind could be "broken" or even killed if you put their body through enough stress. This is what happens in Stockholm Syndrome. Being kidnapped, confined, and having one's life threatened is a form of body control even though it isn't direct. On the other hand, body control couldn't be considered mind control because not everyone responds to physical stress in the same way.
Btw, chapter 18 is done. I'm just waiting for my editor.
Just a suggestion: Earlier Wendy had started admiring the bodies of her friends...be good to see her doing more of that on a subconscious level but in more detail. Also, the more her basic morals are subverted the more "depraved" her thinking should become esp as she is supposed to becoming a lesbian "slut" the less her previous mores should come into play at all. At least that is the idea I get from Sarah's plan. Unless...this is what is planned for her mother. Someone who should be guiding and protecting her could become someone who is pushing her into more and more depravity?
...and at first she would feel a bit shocked/hesitant about her fantasies but as time went on she would not only not feel shocked but enjoy them and actively indulge in them.
Not a bad suggestion in regards how Mary, Wendy's mother, gets involved with transforming Wendy into a lesbian slut. All I know is that Mary's involvement and lesbian interactions just need to be different from what is happening between Madelynn and Erin, Madelynn's mom.
Erin is being transformed into a lesbian submissive lover for Wendy. One that will help bring out and enhance the dominatrix persona in Madelynn.
So whatever Wendy's mom becomes needs to be something that will push and drive Wendy towards being a lesbian slut.
Can't.... bear.... anymore.... the wait !!!! Arrrg....
Byt he way, I think of some ideas about Madelynn's possible future inductions. It seems that, at the end of the current chapter, she'll have to make a choice concerning her beliefs in religion. Maybe Lauren and Elena could twist her thinking with some logical thinking. I think that, for example, if Madelynn hesitates to go further in her gothic and dominatrix looks, Elena or Lauren could say to her that if she want to recall other peoples she's not as nasty as she sounds, and if she wants to keep some reminder of her religious life, she should have the possibility to tattoo on her arm or leg (or whatever, after all) some crucifix. Madelynn would think it would show her religious "morals", but instead we all know what a gothic having crucifix's tattoos on her body seems to be for the people seeing her... In the same order of ideas, she should, like always, struggle between her old and new self. And if she would be ok to tattoo herself with "religious" tattoos, she would crave to have at least some of them going with her "dominatrix" side. And then she would be adviced that she could always tattoos herself with nasty paintings but, if she fears to show them in public, then the best would be to have these bad tattoos in more private places. Like pubis, ass, breasts, for examples. With the videos she would make and put in Wendy's locker, then Lauren would tell her that if she doesn't want to be suspected by Wendy to be the girl behind the mask, she would have to act as the extreme opposite as "Wendy's long life friend", the prude and kind Madelynn. And also learn to disguise her voice a little. Then, Maddy would say the most nastiest and dirty things in the videos, releasing all her potential, becoming a totally different person, and learn to speak with a sulkry dominative voice less higher than her usual, so that Wendy would think the girl on the video is not known to her. What do you think of this ??
For Wendy, I love the fact she is brainwashed into always dressing beautifully while masturbating. That could be the start of her need to be ALWAYS seductive when she thinks about sex or seducing. Likewise, because she'll suspect her mother is a lesbian, we can imagine that, when she will try to seduce her (but step by step, and very lightly at the beginning of course, just for testing her...), she would find absolutely impossible to do it in her casual clothes. She would always has a "bit of something on her", like lipstick, or really short jean shorts with a biiiig rip on one of the ass cheek : "Mommy, I've just fallen and ripped my shorts. Can I still wear it in a "punk" fashion, or do you think it's too vulgar ??", with beautiful panties being seeable through the ripped part. " Oh... ohh god sweety. It's a bit too much and people will maybe misjudge you. For me, I know that you're my gentle daughter so, if you want, it doesn't bother me if you wear this in the house. Don't worry.", responded Mary while her heart pounded faster than ever." Nice start, isn't it ?? ^^
Anyway, before going too far, i'll wait the next chapter. I hope we'll see it by the end of the week. ;)
More kinky to have her USE her beliefs in her domination....
...and having Mary trying to resist Wendy but losing to the temptations but each time feeling guilty. So, while she "reluctantly" is in a strong sexual relationship with Wendy she doesn't want to do more herself. So, instead she pushes Wendy into becoming more and more depraved. Not sure if this is the route that MM wants to go down but persuading Wendy she should walk on her BJ skills...introduces the local pound? That kind of thing?
Youpla, it's hinted in the last chapter of the direction Madeylnn is heading. Remember the symbol on Lauren's dildo? Crucifix tattoos might become contradictory with her beliefs that will eventually change later on. I won't do that many tattoos and definitely not body paintings. However, I like your idea about Madelynn acting the opposite of herself in the video for Wendy. It forces Madelynn to act more nasty without changing her quickly. As for Wendy and her mom, yes, it's going be something like what you've imagined, but they would continue to struggle with their feelings.
Anonymous' idea of using beliefs against the believer is very good, and I've done something similar in chapter 18, just not on Wendy. It fits very well with the slow seduction process because the person being mind controlled doesn't throw away her beliefs entirely, but alter and distort them. I'm not sure what was meant by the local pound. Something dog related?
My editor told me had been very busy, and he's working on it now.
I don't mind if Madelynn ends up getting one or two tattoos, she gets too many it just becomes unattractive. The only thing that would irk me is all it was just words. Most of the mind control stories just has a person getting a tattoo that says "property of so and so" and that's it. Tattoos like that are just a waste to me.
I hope it's not a dog pound. Please tell me how lesbian = dogfucker. It doesn't, there's been nothing established in Brainy Teen that even remotely indicates Sarah wants Wendy and Madelynn to desire beastiality. MM I implore you to not introduce beastiality at all into your Brainy Teen series. It goes against everything that you've established.
Well that's enough from me for now. Can't wait for chapter 18 :)
In my personal opinion the biggest problem with trying to get tattoos in stories is the fact that they are primarily a visual medium. Everyone has their own visual tastes of what's good and what's bad. So saying for example, Madelynn gets a tattoo of a rose on her left arm. There's probably about hundreds ways this is envisioned by the reader, and what about someone that's not fond of rose tattoos, what if they wanted a barbed wire tattoo around Madelynn's left arm. Your example of disliking tattoos of words is also an example. So it's essential trying to find some kind of visual description that a majority of readers can enjoy and/or agree on.
In regards to your dislike of beastiality possibly being introduced in Brainy Teen. First, remember that it hasn't been introduced yet so lets not get into full panic mode yet. Also while Sarah has, so far, definitely no intention of having Wendy and Madelynn commit acts of beastiality there are ways to bring it in without disrupting what's been established. For example I made the suggestion that it be used as a method of punishment, Sarah showing a reluctant Madelynn what can happen if she crosses her. Another example is that it could be used in a flashback sequence. It could involve a young Sarah were she's just trying to figure out how to properly brainwash someone, and when someone is trying to do something for the very first time mistakes are bound to happen. If your primary objection to beastiality is because it doesn't fit in with what's been established in the story. There's still creative ways to see it in. In the end it's going to be MM's decision on whether it gets introduced or not. I say just wait till MM makes that decision before going in full panic.
Domino_X - nice points. Also it is good for all of us to remember that this is MM's story. He isn't getting paid for it and he can write it however he likes. The fact that he has listened to what others have written and taken into consideration is kind of him but it is not essential and those that aren't willing to enjoy what he has written should exercise their right NOT to read and certainly not to start bitching about how they wanted it to be different. Not to say that I am a fan of bestiality or tattooing either but as stated above, it is MM's story not ours!
You're right it is MM's story and he is entitled to do whatever he feels is right for the story. I'm not a fan of beastiality but the thing that bothers me the more than that is story plots that come out of no where. As a reader of the Brainy Teen series I just don't see how beastiality fits in with what's been and being established . Does not compute is the only that comes into my mind. Anyways I don't to turn this into an argurment like last time. So what I said has been said and that's all to it.
As much as I want the new chapter to Brainy Teen. I'd rather have you publish it when you feel that it is ready vs. rushing it out the door. Thank you very much for the status update. I doubt waiting a few more days for chapter 18 is going to hurt us. Drive up the anticipation yes, but hurt us no.
"almost doubled the length of the chapter." Wow that's got to be one massive rewrite. Really can't wait to read it. So far the only thing I can speculate about the new chapter is that we finally get to meet both Wendy and Sarah's mother and also the infamous dinner between them where Wendy's mother is brainwashed and put on the path of becoming a lesbian and used to further turn Wendy into a submissive lesbian.
I'm assuming from his last statement that the chapter is in the final proof stages with his editor. That the "double the length of the chapter" occurred during the first rounds of editing.
Hoorah new Brainy Teen chapter is up :D Well at least part of it :p Hopefully we'll get to see part 2 soon. So after reading Chapter 18 part 1 this is what I've liked so far.
As Eugene mentioned we're seeing some changes in Wendy's personality however not a full-steam ahead rush to her becoming a lesbian slut. Personally I was hoping for something along the lines where Wendy has now accepted that she's a lesbian but not a lesbian slut. Wendy is now looking for a girl to have a long term lesbian relationship with, and possibly spend her life with. Of course Sarah doesn't want any of that and now turns things up a notch so Wendy becomes the lesbian slut that she wants her to be.
We also got an introduction to Mary, Wendy's mom, and Serena, Sarah's mom, and Mary now being brainwashed into becoming a lesbian slut like her daughter. This first part of chapter 18 definitely sets the tone that Serena is the one in charge and that Sarah seems to be a puppet in her mother's plans.
One thing that has me interested in regards to Mary's brainwashing aside from including a "forgotten" lesbian past that puts her on the path of becoming a lesbian slut and Wendy's personal lover. We get to see a trigger get planted into her, or what I assume to be a trigger from what I read. The color red seems to be used heavily into Mary's brainwashing. So I'm going to speculate that when Mary sees the color red worn or used by a female it would invoke feelings of lesbian lust. Can already imagine a few things, for example the mention of a job interview, Mary goes in and of course the person interviewing her is Serena, who happens to be wearing red business suit and Mary can't ignore the lust that she feels as she stares at Serena's body in the red business suit during the interview. Also if you want you could have it start small, Sarah gives Wendy a red t-shirt and some red lip gloss to wear around the house, and of course Mary seeing Wendy wearing these red items has lesbian desires for Wendy come over her.
The only thing I probably found a bit lacking is that it looks like Mary's lesbian desires and seduction for Wendy is similar to Erin's implanted desires for her own daughter, Madelynn. However this is only part 1 and it might change in part 2. If you don't mind, I just want to make the suggestion that as the story progresses maybe Mary should be proactive instead of being reactive in regards to dealing with her lesbian desires for her daughter. For example have her "accidentally" walking in on Wendy when she's changing in her bedroom, taking a shower, or find ways to cop a feel on Wendy's body.
She's probably not to make an actual appearance anytime soon, but with Wendy's sister I would like to make the suggestion of having her show up as a person fully under the control of Serena and an agent of Hecate Inc. vs a slow mind control like what everyone else is going through. One this would show how far the reach is of Serena's company, that it show's they can reach Wendy's sister when she's away at college, and it could be the final tool used to permanently push Wendy into becoming a lesbian seductress/slut.
That's it from me, want to end this by saying that Part 1 was great, loved it and can't wait for part 2, and hopefully we'll see it soon. Also want to thank you for putting out some great work MM. Thanks for the awesome :)
Thank you for noticing and telling me about the problem, Eugene. It's been fixed.
Nice observations, Domino_X. I haven't thought about the color red as a trigger, but it looks like that could possibly be used. Yes, Mary is going to be more proactive than Wendy, but not so proactive that she's completely loses all inhibitions regarding incest with her daughter. She would still struggle with her newly implanted desires.
I would suggest her proactiveness show as being more interested in how she looks in front of her daughter. Also, Wendy's behavior is very different in this chapter and that breaks immersion a little. You need to make the transition smoother. The difference between Wendy's behavior here and in the previous chapter is in how many sexual thoughts Wendy questions and how much of her behavior is influenced by the need to "step it up", so if some of the less risque behavior was not questioned and the more risque was influenced by the need to "step it up" the chapter would've fit in perfectly with the others. That's probably something you want to do for Silver Witch, however, while for Brainy Teen you can probably find some explanation as to why Wendy's behavior changed so suddenly (e.g this being a long-term effect of the drugs on the psyche: the subject wakes up with fewer inhibitions one day because the suggestions made during the course were finally taking root and integrating themselves with the person's beliefs)
P.S. If you're interested, I could help review the works and give you my feedback before you publish the chapter. If, of course, my feedback helps you in any way :)
Nice observations, Eugene. I guess the writer and reader see things differently. I didn't know the transition was that abrupt. You already know that the difference could be partly explained by the drugs and mind control. But, there's another explanation: People aren't always conscious of their actions nor do they always rationalize their actions. They sometimes go into "auto-pilot" mode where they let their instincts and emotions dictate their behavior. Even in their most conscious, lucid mental state, people could choose to avoid rationalizing or come up with bizarre rationalization. It's a common phenomenon.
Regardless, I'm interested in your offer to help review my works. It's nice to have an extra pair of helping eyes. You could send me an email so I know how to contact you.
Couldn't find your email anywhere. You can contact me at e.gorodinskygmail.com
I'm well aware of how people rationalize or ignore their behavior, what I'm pointing out is how different 18-1 is from 17 in terms of how Wendy thinks. You didn't indicate how much time has passed between the events in 17 and 18-1, but it looks like no more than a day which wouldn't be enough for such a drastic change. Hence me suggesting mixing the rationalizing and the unconscious behavior,
Wow! Gosh! Worth the wait though I wish it hadn't taken so long.. Thank you MM, now I need to know what happens next of course. Good luck with polishing the second part of the chapter. I hope you are a quick polisher :) lols
Thank you MasterMeat. It was a really good chapter. Well written, with slow and well done development. Nice descriptions of the clothes, as always, I really like this aspect of your story.
Here are the things I loved in this chapter : - Mary's character : I find it nice that she is somewhat a "normal" mother. Wanting to be beautiful, but wise enough to understand that, well, she is not a teenager anymore and that too much makeup is not for her. It's good too to read that she's not strictly conservative like Erin : she doesn't always approve of Wendy's new behaviour or looks, but she lets it go because she gives her daughter some freedom. Overall, she seems like a normal mother, wanting to educate Wendy as a good girl without being always behind her giving orders. - The slow degradation of Wendy's psyche, that is clearly shown in this chapter. It's good to see her behaviour doing, at last, a big step toward her "slutty future". What is really well written is the slow "brain motion" that makes her think her new tastes are normal. I think especially of the event with the swimsuits, when Wendy is shocked at the beginning but, in the end, thinks she will be totally unable, in the future, to choose common clothes. She'll need to have vicious clothes... but she can't see anymore that these clothes are vicious. Her judgment is now completely twisted by the hypnosis, and I like this ! Other example is how she tries to rationalize that her wanting to be a "slut" is not something really shocking. It's great to read her logic ! - Moreover, I love that this chapter shows clearly the work of the inductions done on Wendy in the previous chapter. In chapter 17, we had some hints of what Wendy would love, do, become. It was a bit like a preview... and the wait is, I insist, the more important in this kind of story. Now, in chapter 18-1, we discover how these inductions are beginning to affect her in her actions and thoughts. - I also love the thing with the red colour about Mary. It's uncommon and could lead to nice ideas I will expose later in the appropriate paragraph. - Finally, I love that the wedding between herself and her daughter is, in Mary's conditioning, shown as her ultimate goal : the thing she will need and that her actions in the future will try to make happen. What I suggest is that, in each brainwashing session, each dream, each hypnosis event, the wedding will always be here as the last thought implanted in her head. each time stronger than before, and each time more depravated (her wedding goal would be at first a common wedding. Then she would expect a wedding where she would be dressed in red. Then in red hooker clothes. Then a "tribadism" session would happen in place of the traditional kiss. And so on..
Now, here are the things that I didn't like or that are puzzling me : - Just like Domino_X said in his comment, I think that Mary's "future new behaviour" seems too much like Erin's future relation with Madelynn. I don't know what you're planning, but it seems Mary would become a slut, totally crazy about her daughter, loving what is twisted and vicious. Well, it's just the beginning of Mary's hypnosis, and I can only speculate. But I would have like something more... let's say... light with Mary. A brainwashing less heavier, that would not totally change Mary's character. Her thinking and behaviour would not change completely : it would be her tastes that would evolve. For example, she would not wear hooker clothes because she wants to be a slut, but because she finds them pretty, that's all. Or she would not see lesbian homoxesuality as a good way to let her slutty need explode, but as something normal and that she had always craved. I don't know if I explain all of this really well... ^^ - The twisted memory with Shelly was great, alright. BUT, in my opinion, it would have been best to change several of them and not focusing on only one. I find it odd that Mary would have repressed lesbian desires only because of ONE event. Twisting her entire life with some little bits, there and there, of sapphic events would have been best and more believable. I Find the all event between Shelly and Mary a bit extreme for a first lesbian intercourse. Moreover, if Mary (in her "false" memories) has already enjoyed a full intercourse with a girl, I think she would not desire new lesbian intercourses as strongly as if she had been interrupted before the main intercourse. Sapphic relationships would have been better for Mary if it was something she never really had completely : then, it would have been a fantasy she never managed to do, but deeply implanted in her psyche. That's why I think maybe you should have stop the event between Shelly and Mary when they were discovered by Shelly's mother. And then, move on some time in the future. Mary with a friend at college, Mary with her mom, etc... But, well, after all, the story is not finished and you can always describe new events. Overall, I think that Mary induction was too strong for a first one. But maybe you have in your mind a clear goal for her, that we don't think about. ^^ - Going with Erin and Mary being too much of a same character, I think it's odd that Mary finds Christian education important for her daughter, and homosexuality to be "sinful". Once again, this kind of thinking with the religion should go well with Erin, but with a second character it's a bit redondant. Especially when Mary, at the start of the chapter, is somewhat ok with Wendy's new looks and heavy makeups. - I didn't really care about the maid, Kayla. I think she was necessary to show that Wendy can't look away, now, from beautiful girls. But I think you gave her too much importance when you should have focused on what Wendy thought of Serena or, more importantly, of her own mother after the brainwashing she had in the lobby.
In regards to Mary's memories of her best friend, Shelly, being the only one of her memories to be altered so Mary had a forgotten lesbian past. Don't forget that it was stated that Shelly met an unfortunate end in her early life, and thus ending their close friendship. The death of a loved one has a very strong influence on the life of those that were very close to them.
Going forward this is nothing buy my personal take on the Shelly memory. I'm guessing that Serena, Sarah's Mom, did some investigation of Mary's past life and of course came across Shelly, how close she was to Mary, and her untimely death. Further review probably gave Serena reasoning that Mary never really came to terms to accepting that her best friend passed away, and in some ways trying to keep Shelly alive in her in mind and heart. For example, Mary could have named her first daughter, Wendy's older sister, Shelly and this could have been the tip off to Serena that Mary might not really accepted that her best friend Shelly has passed away. Maybe on Shelly's birthday she calls in and orders a flower arrangement to be sent and placed on her best friend's grave site.
Also, this is mostly from my suggestion of the memory alteration, but Mary probably would have shared parts of her past with her family and current close friends. So if confronted about why all of a sudden she has lesbian desires when she never indicated she had them before. Mary can explain that she had a budding lesbian relationship with Shelly but when Shelly passed away Mary felt she was to blame for Shelly's death and felt that it was divine punishment and did her best to suppress her lesbian side.
Anyways that's my take on why the Shelly memory was the only memory altered.
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Just out of curiosity you wouldn't happen to be a fan of Frankenstein MM? I ask because it just dawned on me you have Mary and then her close friend Shelly. Put them together and you have Mary Shelly or a play of words on Mary Shelley, the author of Frankenstein. Then again maybe it's just me reading way too much into things. Anyways, again want to say that 18-1 is a great chapter and I'm eagerly waiting 18-2.
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Also noticed the credit section and appreciate the shout out, you din't have to, but I appreciate it and thank you very much.
You're reading it deeply, Domino_X. Yeah, people sometimes have more influence dead than alive. It's kind of ironic.
If Mary did name one of her daughters after her best friend, then it would trigger her memory of Shelly every time she sees or thinks of her older daughter. It kind of clashes with the idea of having a repressed memory. The rest of your interpretation is plausible.
I'm not sure if you've noticed this in the story, but it's implied that the machine has at least a partial ability to read memories. You can't really modify something without reading it first. Therefore, it could be explained that Serena knew how influential Shelley was to Mary's life without having to go out of her way to do investigative research.
Regarding Frankenstein, I don't really consider myself a fan because I haven't read the original story yet, but I like the modern works based on the ideas of her story. The word play wasn't intentional. While writing the chapter, it took me a while to notice that two names form the name of the author of Frankenstein when put together. I actually thought about changing Shelley's name, but eventually decided against it. Is this pop culture influencing subconsciously influencing my thoughts and actions? I'm not sure.
That's, I think, the only things that bugge dme in this chapter. Overall, I'll say it again, don't rush the induction on Mary and don't copy/paste what she will become and think of an incestual relationship with her daughter with Erin's path.
And here are some ideas, like always : - About the red colour, here is what I think. red is clearly the most "agressive" colour, something that could not clearly pass as discretly as white or even black. Mary's new obssession on this colour could be the start of something more elaborate. She would develop taste for red clothes because she would feel, growing and growing, the need to expose herself in front of her daughter, the need to show her looks. In fact, it would lead to an interesting goal for Mary. You said at the beginning of the chapter that she didn't like to expose herself more than necessary. She doesn't wear heavy makeups, no high heels, not much jewelry. She wants to hide herself in the mass, more or less. But that would be thrilling to see her, on the contrary, develop a taste for standing out of other peoples. The red colour would then be a good choice. And she'll begin to search new ways to show herself, especially for her daughter. In the last steps, she would finish with heavy makeups, revealing red clothes. More like a hooker, loving cosmetics and all that could expand her beauty, and exposing it clearly in front of her daughter. - We can imagine that Mary has beginning to see that Madelynn has changed since some times... One day, Madelynn could come at Wendy's home and wait for her a bit, with only Mary being in the house. They would talk of common topics, until Mary would bring the new tastes Madelynn has for gothic clothes. Madelynn would then act a bit as a seductress, showing her clothes, asking if they look good on her. Even, for example, showing her corset, or expanding a leg to show the fishnet stockings and the high boots... Of course, it would trigger some sexual need in Mary; moreover she she is brainwashed (as it seems) to have a preference for teenagers girls. In the end, Mary would add Madelynn looks good in her outfit, but that she thinks it would be a bit better in red. And so, the next day, at the same hour, Madelynn would do a surprise visit. She would say to Mary that she didn't come to see Wendy, but to show a new outfit she picked up. She would enter, drop off her trenchcoat, and appear in red latex outfit. Mary would find her extremely attractive, but of course would not dare to do anything. Madelynn would play the innocent girl ("Isn't it a bit too flashy ? Don't we see my breasts too much ?"), and add that the seller gave her some free samples of cosmetics. Red lipstick, black mascara, red polish... She would ask that Mary tries them, "for fun". With a bit of hesitation, Mary would do so. And then Madelynn would say she thinks red is "her colour", that she looks especially beautiful with heavy makeups, and that "if she was a lesbian, she would fall for her in the minute". After Madelynn leaves, Mary would masturbate herself frantically. And of course, she would decide to start wearing heavier makeups. And asking Madelynn, in future talkings, about advices... ;)
Well, I don't have many ideas because Mary's character has just been introduced to us. I'll wait where the story goes. I now expect that the chapter 18-2 will be about Erin and Madelynn, maybe to show also the differences between this "couple" and "Mary/Wendy"'s one.
By the way, can you give us an estimation for the release of 18-2 chapter ? I'm asking because I will be moving in in a new town in Two weeks. And some time will pass before I have an internet connection. I Won't be able to read your stories, or give my feedbacks during nearly two months. I hope I will be able, though, to discover chapter 18-2 before I go. Thanks !
PS : Thank you for adding me in the credits. It's always a pleasure to read you and give my feedback and/or advices. Moreover, I thank you for always taking into consideration what the readers say.
Youpla, although Erin and Mary have similar backgrounds and appear to share a similar fate as it is portrayed by the story, I don't think it's necessary to make the characters have completely different characteristics just for the sake of being different. I'm not sure if it's clear enough in the story, but Mary and Erin are slightly different in their views towards homosexuality. Mary and Erin both believe it's sinful, but Erin holds a stronger belief while Mary's stance against homosexuality is weaker. Also, did you notice that Erin is more critical of her daughter's behavior and dress compared to Mary with her own daughter? People believing in the same religion don't always interpret it in the same way.
Having multiple characters share the similar general attitudes and behaviors doesn't necessarily make the same. There are other ways to provide variety. Mary and Erin could be given different fetishes, tastes in clothing, etc.
Mary's initial induction was strong because it was necessary. Her strongly ingrained morals and attitudes require a stronger force to override them. It was also suggested in the chapter that the mental induction was all subconscious. It's not a full-blown brainwashing that turns Mary into lesbian whore by the morning.
I thought it was perfectly reasonable to build that particular set of false memories for Mary in that way. It would be easy to convince Mary that she had suppressed such memories, due to a mixture of residual guilt and grief that their mutual attraction led to them being separated and ultimately to Shelly's eventual death. That they are now being dragged to the surface by her growing awareness of her own daughters sexuality and Mary's "reawakened" lesbian desires makes it much easier to sell that to Mary's subconscious. Indeed, by focussing on her first lesbian lover being a teenager, this makes it easier for her to see her own daughter as a focus for her own lusts and desires.
Bit of a dirty trick not letting us in on the what happened in the pool, maybe a flashback?.
No doubt it will be even easier to rebuild Mary to Serena's own taste later once she has had actual lesbian experiences and her heterosexual nature is subsumed by growing lesbian desires.
I was also wondering if you were working on the next installment of the Silver Witch. It seemed to me, that Emma is going to be more easily corrupted by her being put in positions where she has to use her new powers to manipulate other women sexually for her own ends...after all power corrupts.
Keep up the excellent work and I look forward to the next, and future, instalments.
I'm glad it makes sense for you. Repressed memories is a gray area in psychology, which makes much of it a matter of debate.
Due to creative concerns, the chapter has been split into two parts. The second part is a continuation of what happened in the first part. It continues the pool scene as well as Mary's induction by the machine. Wendy also spends some time in the machine. Madelynn and Erin doesn't appear in this chapter but they will reappear again in chapter 19.
Silver Witch will be continued. The chapters are just coming a little slower than Brainy Teen.
Want to avoid going into a long post since only half of chapter 18 was posted. However I really want to say that I enjoyed it, and can't wait for part 2. I really can't say much on Serena and Mary since they've just been introduced, and their introductory chapter hasn't been fully released. So I'm going hold off on them. Enjoyed Wendy's interactions and can't wait to see how it ends in part 2. Anyways thanks for the great chapter and can't wait for part 2.
@MasterMeat ----> Yes, I know that people can be christians and have completly different behaviours or beliefs about religion. I understand your point of view, it's just that I was speculating. Since we only discovered Mary, I was only saying things that i feared for the character. Advices, I mean... But it seems you have your ideas about her, and that she will end as someone different as Erin, so it is good.
Concerning Mary's future inductions, in fact I have a good idea. Or, at least, I suppose it is good : - Since you said that Mary, in her "new memory" was asked by Serena to come for an appointment about a future job at Hecate, here is how things could become. Her new job would be to promote the new cosmetics and clothes for the society, since Mary will be brainwashed to believe that Hecate is a "fashion" industry. Thus, Serena would give to Mary free samples like red lipstick, silver eyeshadow, deep black mascara, false eyebrushes, etc... She would ask that she tries them at least at home, and give her her feedback. She would be adviced to do it in front of Wendy and to note if Wendy likes them, or how she will react, etc... The same would go with the red clothes, of course. At the beginning, Mary would do this by obligation for her new work, but eventually would find the cosmetics and revealing red clothes to be attractive, even for her usual tastes for light makeup and common outfits. She would try more and more, and Serena would oblige to give her nastier and nastier outfits, and makeups more garish each time. Moreover, the cosmetics (like the lipstick) would be of course drugged with pheromones or mind controlling drugs, so Mary would be hornier and hornier each time she would put makeup. Serena would also give free samples that Mary would innocently give to Wendy. So Mary would become, unbeknown to her, a mean to emphasize Wendy's drugging. Serena, by seeing Mary all the days at "work", would then become close friend with her, with the purpose of knowing, by discussing with her, some of her past events concerning her sexual life. Thus, it would be easier for Serena to manipulate these memories and transform them for more and more deep brainwashing.
I believe it was already mentioned that the position Mary would interview for in Hecate would be accounting, a previous position that she held at another company. Still there are a few ways to get the 'Mary into modeling' idea in there. For example Mary gets the accounting job and then Serena informs her of the company newsletter where new employees introduce themselves to the company. Serena has Mary go down to a photo studio to get some modest glamour shots done for the newsletter. Of course the photo shot is rigged. Going to borrow from an episode of GI Joe where Cobra was kidnapping models by brainwashing them with the flash from the cameras. Same concept, the flash of the cameras make Mary very open to suggestions and the photographer, another lesbian under Serena's employ, plants the suggestion that Mary agrees to moonlight as a model for her during some free time. This of course leads to your idea. It starts small, some single glamour shots or modeling of Hecate subsidiary cosmetic products and then eventually over the course of time she starts to do lesbian pornographic photos. Anyways that's my suggestion in regards to your suggestion of getting Mary into modeling.
Now that model idea with the gradual, subtle induction sounds great. Leads to a bunch of great outs to explore, and you can have it be a recurring thing, or just a one off. Invit6e Wendy, wow. Again, great idea. It's fairly vanilla, so it may not appeal to everyone, but mmm, just thinking about it gets my motor running.
Mary would be adviced too to try her new looks in front of "different" persons. If Wendy's feedback would be appreciated, Serena would ask of numerous feedbacks. Like "Wendy's friends", for example. So we can imagine that Mary would ask of Madelynn to give her her feelings about new clothes, new makeups, etc... And why not imagining a sort of "défilé" at home, that Mary would do in front of Wendy and Madelynn, acting like a mannequin, showing different outfits ? And lastly, maybe Serena would ask that Mary sends free samples of her cosmetics to Wendy's sister. That could be an opening for Wendy's sieter future brainwashing, if you're planning to do this at one point in the story. Maybe this sister would be brainwashed to become extremely jealous of Wendy, because she would note that she has all the attention from Mary. It's just an idea, don't know where it could lead after that, but I suppose it opens new areas with some ease.
By the way, I don't think it's good to make an overcomplicated past for MAry, with too much psychological depht, like repressed personality, not accepting the death of Shelly, etc... In my opinion, it's much better in a mind controlling story if the people are somewhat common people who end up completly transformed. I think incestual relations are more exciting if the daughter and the mother, putting aside the seual intercourse and all the erotic things, are acting in everyday life like common people, like they are, indeed, common daughter and mother. That's why, for example, I suggest not using the "Yes my daughter" or "Yes mistress" for Erin and Madelynn. What is exciting in incest is seeing the people acting ALWAYS like daughter and mother, just as before, but with the sexual needs poisoning their thoughts abouth each other, and eventually their actions.
Don't know if I had explainded correctly what I meant, sorry for my lack of skills in English. Now, I'll patiently wait for chapter 18-2. Oh god ! Please, I want to read it this week or the next one, please... Don't let me wait too long. :(
Personally, I think it would be far hotter if Wendy had to seduce her sister. Have the sister be extremely religious and conservative and Lauren insists that for her to be Wendy's Wendy must seduce her sister. Then Wendy has her sister become completely amoral - open and willing to do absolutely anything sexual.
Mmmm, I'm not against Wendy having to seduce her big sister, but I think your vision of Wendy's sister is too much like the induction Madelynn is enduring, I mean a prude and conservative girl becoming a nasty slut without any limits. I think that thre first step is to know WHO is Wendy's siter and why she isn't at home. The most realistic thing that comes to my mind is that she is a student in high college, and that she only comes at Mary's home for the holidays, or so.
I can think of two sort of brainwashing for her : - We can imagine that she is studying chemistry. One way or another, she will have doubts about her siter's and mother's new behaviour and will investigate what could change them so much. She will eventually discover that the cosmetics are drugged, and will plan (like Madelynn at the start of the story) to know where they come from. Innocently, she could ask clues to Madelynn, who she knows is a long time friend of Wendy. But Madelynn would be ordered by Lauren to drug Wendy's siter, under the false pretext that her actions could lead Hecate to leave and hide their actions, which could bring difficultioes to track them and bring them down. Thus, Madelynn would be given a drug and would put some of it into drinks, then offer them to Wendy's siter when she would come at her house asking advices. This drug would be special. It would absolutely not brainwash Wendy's sister or change her behaviour. But, like a junky, Wendy's sister would become addicted to pussy's juices, moreover to Serena or Sarah juices, the only ones that would weaken the need for one day. Of course, she could always has sex with Wendy, Mary, or other girls, but it would not sooth her thirst for pussy juices to the same extent. She would be totally aware of being controlled, but unable to resist the lust. Each day, she would need to lick some pussy or she would start to feel pain, like junkies, and her condition would start to worsen. And just like junkies, her needs would expand and expand as the time passes. Thus, Serena and Sarah would ask her orders, under thez menace of not giving her what she needs : their pussy juices. Of course, Wendy's siter would be horrified but in the end totally unable to resist. She would be like a slave, like a tool for drugging Mary and Wendy even more, but always aware of it. And, of course, Serena and Sarah could ask of her more things if she wants what she needs : stop her studies and become a pornstar for lesbian videos on the net, start to wear revealing outfits, etc...
- My second idea : she could be studying fashion at her school in order to become a creator of new clothes. Just as in my previous scenario, she would eventually find that her mother's ans sister's new clothes are odd, and not of their usual tastes. Just as before, she would be drugged. This time, she would be brainwashed to believe that her personal creations and tastes for clothes will be always inferior to Mary's and Wendy's new outfits. She would start to develop a inferiority complex and, each time her mother and sister would bring new clothes or cosmetics, she would feel less beautiful than them. Thus, she would create each time more and more revealing outfits, and would start to wear more slutty makeups, each time for surpassing Mary and Wendy. Her only goal in life would be to become each time more beautiful, to the point that she would do anything for this : surgery, fake eyelashes, botoxed lips, etc...
I must say I have a big preference for my first idea. But let's not develop too much this character before she is even introduced. For the moment, we've just discovered Mary. And Erin's induction is far from being finished too. Let's wait a bit where the story will go...
Oh, and too bad the chapter 18-2 will not be ready before I move in. I guess I will have to wait more than one month now before reading it. Sad... So sad....
From the brief times Wendy's sister was mentioned in Brainy Teen it was established that Wendy's sister is the older one. Not sure of her exact age but it's assumed she's at the age where she's attending college. Hence the reason why she is only mentioned in passing and hasn't been seen, yet.
I agree with Youpla that given that Mary, Wendy's mother, just got a proper introduction into Brainy Teen that it would be best to hold off on fully introducing Wendy's sister. However I still say work some of it into Mary and Wendy's downfall. For example Wendy's sister sends them an email and attached is a photo of her. Both Wendy and Mary feel various levels of arousal from seeing the picture, or she calls in to check up on her family and either Mary or Wendy, whoever answers the phone, starts to lust from hearing Wendy's sister's voice. Personally I think that when Wendy's sister does become fully introduced into Brainy Teen that she should already be brainwashed and under Serena's control as one of her lesbian operatives. A final tool used to push Wendy and Mary into truly becoming lesbians.
Then again with Mary's recent brainwashing she's being driven to desire, seduce, and eventually have sex with Wendy with no mention of wanting to do the same to her older daughter. So it does leave that question as to what happens when Wendy's sister does come aboard and happens to see Mary giving Wendy that "extra bit" of attention. From my interpretations it doesn't look like Wendy's jealous of her older sister, and hasn't made any mention that Mary treated one better than the other. However this could lead to Wendy's older sister noticing how odd her mother and younger sister affection with each other and from here becomes ensnared into Serena's clutches and brainwashed.
Any way just some thoughts about Wendy's sister, hope, for those that live in the States, everyone here had a great 4th of July and really can't wait for the new and improved chapter 18 to come out MM :)
I'm kind of inclined to agree with Domino_X on maybe having Wendy's sister already under Serena's control when she's introduced. Only for this reason though, we've got a lot of characters in the mix right now and I'm just concerned that it might one character too many in the story and things will get overlooked or deluded. We started out with Wendy, then Madelynn, followed by her mother and now Wendy's mom is added in. If MM wants to add in Wendy's sister and able to juggle her in the Brainy Teen series on top of the other characters then more power to him. Anyways that's just a concern of mine on adding one more character.
Agree that having too many characters appear in a story can cause plot issues. However it also depends on how that character is introduced and what affect they have on the plot. So far Wendy's sister has been briefly mentioned and what we know of her is that she's away and that she's the older sister, and that's about it. Honestly how well Wendy's sister is accepted is going to depend on the manner MM brings her in, and what's she's used for.
Robert sorry I could not proof your last chapter. For those that do not know me. I am Storm since Brainy Teen came out I have been proofing majority of Robert's stories. But, due to disasters currently happening I have been tied up since I have a non-profit Disaster Relief Agency known as Emergency Rapid Response Team. If any of you want to donate for a good cause please donate. We need more trauma bags and bottled water. ERRT is currently preparing for Hurricane Season 2013, many of the meteorologists and First Responders are preparing for a Category V.
No problems from me, and I don't think anyone else here has issues with you putting work and real life issues before this. Just like MM has his life matters to attend to so do you.
Thanks for the update MasterMeat. Sorry if I sounded like I was rushing you, but your stories are good and always has me wanting more and I want to see what the rest of chapter 18 has in store for Wendy and her mother.
Just had an idea for Brainy Teen. For those that want to see some ink on Wendy. How about one of those temporally tats that slowly comes off, but this one comes off more slowly than normal. As is slowly ever so slowly comes off day by day Wendy becomes more and more into the thought of wanting/desiring sex with only females.
I think the tattoo request was for Madelynn since she is becoming more and more of a lesbian goth dominatrix, but it can also apply to Wendy. Interesting idea to have the tattoo ink loaded with mind control chemicals. There are pharmaceutical medicines out there that are applied to the skin and absorbed that way. So I don't see why that concept can't be applied to tattoo ink.
Temporary tattoos is a great idea! It allows for body art without the side effects. Combining it with mind control chemicals is another good idea. I could do temporary tattoos for both Wendy and Maddy since it's not permanent. I hope people who are initially against tattoos are fine with this.
My current ideas for long-term drug dispensing are all internal: IUD and breast implants. With slow release drugs implanted inside or outside the body (such as tattoos), the use of pills and such could be reduced.
Temporary tattoos could be a good idea. But, personally, I think it doesn't go really well with the story established so far. In mind control stories, the core of the erotic appeal for the reader is seeing a slow transformation of some "normal" characters into a dreamed fantasm. And this, with no mean to go back to how the character was at the beginning. For example, Wendy is turned into a lesbian slut, right ? Thus, if at some point in the story we'd learn that it's only temporary and that Wendy becomes once more the normal girl she was at chapter one, all of her induction would have no meaning. The same goes for Madelynn, Erin, or Mary. With temporary tattooos, it would be a bit of the same : it would not matter how nasty the tattoos would be or how they could add to the looks of Wendy/Madelynn, because the reader would know that they would disappear, and that Madelynn/Wendy are, consequently, not willing to go "all the way". It would mean their brainwashing would not be a complete thing. It's like going with a 50-50 way.
But this idea could lead to another thing : why not having, like said, temporary tattoos on the characters loaded with chemical drugs ? But, even if they are temporary, once they would disappear, Wendy/Madelynn would feel "empty", like some part of their body had gone away. In fact, they would have been so used to their temporary tattoos that they would not feel at their full beauty potential without them. I'm not asking to do extreme body paintings. But some tattoos, either on public body locations (arms, calfs, neck...) or more private ones (nipples, pussy, ass...) could add a bit of spice. Especially, once again, concerning Madelynn. I say it again : I can't imagine a gothic dominatrix without any tattoo ! And if Wendy is ok with getting some, we can't forget that Madelynn, if she is fated to be "agressive" with her looks, will undoubtly want to go "all the way", especially more than her friend Wendy.
By the way, totally out of the subject, have you not thought of transforming a white shy and nerdy girl into a black nasty bimbo ? It could be believable with melanine injections, for example. I don't know if it's possible in Brainy Teen story. Maybe we can imagine it foe Wendy's sister, after all : she could, in fact, really be a lesbian at start. And she could come back in holidays to her mother's house with the goal of saying her homosexuality to Mary. But, being extremely shy and lacking willpower, she would not be able to find the courage to do this. With Serena coming at home during an evening, Wendy's sister would confess her problems to her. Serena would tell her to gain inspiration from women who don't have problems exposing their bodies, speaking vulgar, or living without the social rules. She would give her a "documentary" about these women, a video that would be of course plagued with subliminal messages. This video would only present black hookers, the kind of hookers who go with somewhat "gangsta" looks. Thus, the ultimate goal for Wendy's sister would be to change her appearance in order to forget about her shyness and finally be able to come out of the closet. It's just an idea that popped into my head. You can use it or not, as always, if it's a good source of inspiration for you. Maybe it would be possible to include it in Silver With : a white girl turning into a black girl is kind of a magical thing, after all.
Here is a link showing this kind of transformation : http://the-pink-room.blogspot.fr/2011_12_01_archive.html Go to the post from the 10th of December, and go up from there. Enjoy !
And now, I'll wait the next part. I do hope it will come in the next days, I can't wait !!!!
Temporary tattoos is probably the best middle of the road option that tries to satisfy both sides of argument. It's still going to leave some people unsatisfied, but it's better than alienating one side all together. Wendy and Madelynn will get tattoos, but they won't be permanent and will fade away eventually. Storywise it could work, Wendy and Madelynn are highschool seniors and some schools do have a strict dress codes and codes of conducts, and having a tattoo at their school is probably frowned upon. They can argue that it's temporary and not permanent if they caught by school teachers and staff. Maybe have the first tattoo that Wendy and Madelynn get
I don't mind a change in personality but as mentioned not a big fan of extreme body modifications,and your suggestion of having Wendy's older sister having her race changed is too drastic for my tastes and a turn off for me. Also from what I could get from your suggestion I'm not sure why Wendy's older sister would confide in a complete stranger that she has never meet before, Serena Powers, Sarah's Mom, that she's gay if she's very shy around people. If Wendy's older sister is shy as you would suggest he would probably confess to Wendy and from there Wendy could go to Sarah and have them help Wendy's older sister get over her shyness over course in during that process they turn her into a wanton lesbian sex fiend. Anyways in the end it's something for MM to mull over.
Crud, left a part out. Meant to say that maybe have the first Tattoos that Wendy and Madelynn get be some kind of secret identifying mark, like the twin Venus symbols. That way if a teacher or school administrator that is under the control or payroll of Hecate sees the tattoo they can either choose to ignore it because they know that Wendy and Madelynn or fellow converts or further push Wendy in becoming a lesbian slut and Madelynn into a lesbian dominatrix. Same goes for a student under Hecate's control. They see Madelynn with an identifying tattoo and will try to be submissive and bring out her dominatrix side and with Wendy they will try and get her to be more of a lesbian slut.
Youpla, I've checked out that blog. Most of the pictures look nice, but I'm not sure what's exactly going on in those series of pictures. Is she becoming black from the tanning bed or is it a new character? The captions don't really say much.
Regardless, melanin injections and tanning won't make anyone black. They'll just look tanned. Other physical features need to be changed, like eye color, hair texture, etc. Without those changes, the person would end up like something similar to what the Japanese are doing in their Ganguro fashion. I could add a black character, but I'm not fond of race changing. It's too extreme for my taste.
I haven't decided on what to do with Wendy's sister yet. I'm still floating with ideas suggested by other readers.
As for the tattoos causing Wendy/Madelynn to feel "empty" once they wear off, they don't have to contain standalone drugs nor do they have to act as the sole source of drugs. They could be used as a trigger or catalyst. For example, once they come into contact with certain liquids like water or saliva or another drug, they would start to have an effect. It doesn't have to be addictive nor create feelings of emptiness (Normal vs highly aroused compared to sad vs highly aroused).
Sorry I should have been more specific. If MM is willing to share. I'm just curious as to what parts of the plot or story flow for chapter 18 did his editor feel that he should go into greater detail or needed to be expanded.
Most of the parts where my editor felt need to be expanded involve the characters' thoughts. He goes into far greater detail than me. Besides that is adding general content.
The decision to split the chapter was based on the feeling that it might be too long for readers in word length and waiting time. However, I've decided now to combine the revised part 1 with part 2 as one whole chapter.
MasterMeat ---> About the blog where a shy girl becomes a black bimbo, the ways used to transform her are not plainly exposed. There are tanning sessions, surgery, and drugs to make her more receptive and change her behaviour. I don't think the author gave too much credit with realism but rather created some hints to let the followers imagine how she is transformed. In any case, I don't think the process is here the most important thing. I was just giving this link to show the slow transformation of the girl, to show that it can be exciting too if it is well done. Anyway, like you'e said, it's evidence that melanin injections and tanning can't transgform someone into a black person. But, after all, in Brainy Teen, there are many technologies that don't exist. You could imagine some machine that change the genes defining the ethnic race of a person, or some new kind of melanin injections that really transforms the skin of a subject without giving the feeling it's just tanned, or whatever. But maybe, in fact, this fantasy would go better with Silver Witch : you can easily go with a magic spell that would transform a white girl into a black woman, after all... Anyway, it was just an idea that popped into my head after discovering the blog. Do whatever you want with it !
About temporary tattoos, I don't think I've explained really well my point of view. What I meant in my previous comment is that brainwashing or hypnosis, in a story, finds its true meaning if the "victim" has her opinions about one thing changing. Slowly in the beginning but, at one point, of course, totally changed. There is not, I think, a "50/50" way : either the character has one of her fetish completely changed, or not at all. If you go with temporary tattoos, I think it's a more or less clumsy way to try satisfying everyone. I think it's a too much easy way to include new fetishes in the story, without taking any risk. Then, it could be the starting point of easiness : Someone is suggesting piercings ? Well, we'lee go with false piercings for now, and see how it goes afterwards... Someone wants Wendy to start speaking casually with dirty words ? Well, let's make it temporary, for example by imagining Sarah making a bet with Wendy, so that she has to speak like that for a day... Someone wants Mary to have really long polished nails ? Then let's make her wear false ones, and see in one or two chapters if it goes well with her character...
Do you see exactly what I mean here ? Of course, we can imagine that temporary tattoos, to come back on this point, are the introduction for Wendy that will lead her to real tattoos. But I don't think you should stick all through the story with these : either you choose to fully brainwash Wendy (or any other character) on this point, or either you do nothing. Because going with the 50/50 way would make the hypnosis rather incomplete, and that doesn't go really well with the previous brainwashing Wendy had with Sarah.
I hope I did explain well my opinion. And now, can we expect the next chapter this week ? We don't have the same definition for the word "soon" ! ^^
To a certain extent I agree with Youpla that allowing Wendy and Madelynn to get only temporary tattoos can be seen as a hindrance to the brainwashing/mind control plot of Brainy Teen. However for me it's not because it shows a lack of progress in regards to Wendy's and Madelynn's mind control, but because allowing Wendy and Madelynn to only get temporary tattoos contradicts the personalities of Sarah and Serena.
To clarify, from my personal interpretations of Sarah and especially Serena. They're pretty much very dominate and have a very clear desire and end goal of how they want their lesbian lovers/sex slaves to behave, look, and perform. Both have used their mind control tactics to mold their female targets into becoming their ideal lesbian lovers/sex slaves. For them to settle and allow Madelynn or Wendy to get only temporary tattoos contradicts the dominant personalities you've established for Sarah and Serena MM. If they manipulate Wendy and Madelynn to get temporary tattoos then permanent tattoos have to be some where down the road.
This again brings about the issues of should Wendy or Madelynn get or not get tattoos in the first place. If so what kind of tattoos should they get, how many should they get, what is the tattoo of, and so on. If not then what else can be done to show that Madelynn and Wendy have changed from their original personalities. Any ways it's something that I mulled over and thought about as I read Youpla's response to temporary tattoos. Like Youplay I'm hoping to see the chapter 18 some time this week. Laters and take care MM :)
"Because going with the 50/50 way would make the hypnosis rather incomplete, and that doesn't go really well with the previous brainwashing Wendy had with Sarah." ----> I meant the same thing that you're explaining here, Domino_X. But you've developed it way better than me. If Sarah (and Serena) are doing extreme brainwashing turning Wendy into a lesbian slut, Madelynn into a dominative gothic nympho, Erin into a submissive woman having a thing for incest, and Mary into a whore whose goal is to marry her daughter, I don't think they will be so nice to only allow temporary tattoos. Or maybe if it is a way to go, at one point, with permanent ones, yes. But you know, you can do some original tattoos without completely transform the characters into "suicide girls". There are girls who look really beautiful with a nice tattoo along their calf, or arm, or even what is called "tramp stamp". I think Wendy can have one or two without transforming into a freak. But, for what Madelynn is fated to become, I really think that, even if she doesn't have to go into "suicide girl" looks, she must at least be "a bit more" than a girl with one or two "normal tattoos".
Sorry, misunderstanding on my part. I misread and thought you were talking about how having temporary tattoos would undermine Wendy and Madelynn's brainwashing. For me it would more likely undermine Sarah and Serena's dominate personalities.
Oh my, I think I must read these stories in a way to superficial manner lols. Well any which way I always love them MM and I thank you for them. I too would love a new installement this week, but I occasionally check and sometimes there is something new and I love that ty:) Otherwise whenever you can is soon enough, just keep writing! - gets into a hot bath and washes away all her temporary tattoos ;) lols x
Whether or not the tattoos should be permanent is just a matter of taste. It's not necessary to use tattoos as symbolism to represent how much the characters have been converted or as an important tool in converting them. The most important goal for the mind controller is to have their subjects' minds changed. Everything else would follow naturally. As for the contradiction, I fail to see it. Imo, temp tattoos are better because you can maintain a consistent "fresh" look. Wearing temporary tattoos daily is functionally the same as having permanent tattoos, is it not? Regardless, permanent tattoos could be done on Madelynn, but I'm opting for temporary ones for Wendy (if any).
Regarding how the story should be read, it's entirely up to the reader. From my standpoint, it's purely for entertainment. I satisfied enough that readers enjoy the story.
Yes MM, it always your story (stories) and I have loved them so far, so remain true to what you think. Its lovely that people feel so engaged that they want to make suggestions, but I am just a reader and I await to read the next chapter when you think it is ready:) Thank you! x
TY MM for the rest of the chapter - gosh its long:) I will read it tomorrow, sorry but its 3.32am for me now and I can't see straight lols. THANK YOU THO x
First off just want to say Thank you MM for another great chapter. You weren't kidding when you said that the editor revisions doubled the chapter. 18 is even longer than chapter 1. Again thanks for putting out another great read and hats off to you for putting up with the "is it out yet" chatter from all of us.
I will honestly say that I enjoyed the revision of chapter 18 vs the the first half that was posted originally and I don't see myself missing the older version. One of the changes I liked was Mary not being able to take Shelly's virginity in the false lesbian past memory implant in the chapter 18 revision. It will definitely help with future manipulations of Mary into becoming a lesbian. I feel that Mary having been stopped from taking her best friend's virginity now creates this desire within Mary to try and find a way to complete that moment, fill in the void that moment of lesbian lust created, and thus will have her unknowingly search for lesbian sex, especially with younger girls and woman. This definitely sets the tone that Mary is going to be programmed differently from Erin, Madelynn's mother.
Also the additional brainwashing that was written in the scene where Mary is waiting in the foyer helped flesh out her brainwashing/mind control and gives what is happening to her a better pace in the revision. For me it definitely feels like Serena is laying down the foundation to transform Mary into a deviant lesbian sex slave.
In regards to suggestions, it was already posted in earlier comments to have Mary desire younger woman and girls, and the complete chapter 18 seems to imply this. If that's the case for Mary I suggest that aside from having Mary trying to hang out with and seduce Wendy's friends don't forget to have Mary buy teen magazines to lust after the models in them, or when she and Wendy have a bonding moment together such as watching a teen movie or tv show and have her be attracted to the actresses portraying teen girls.
I think the only thing that disappointed me was the lack of Madelynn and her mother, but hopefully we'll see them in chapter 19. Then I know that Wendy's visit to the lesbian strip club is also coming up too. I have a feeling she might be taking a more active role when she visits that club.
Any way can't wait for the next chapter update to Brainy Teen. I do know that Silver Witch is next on the update list, but that's been a good read so it's win-win. Take care MM and thanks again for putting out another great work.
I know, I know that it was posted a few days back but still great to see a new chapter.
Pretty much liked and hope to see more later on. If what Domino_X said is true about Silver Witch getting the next update. Then I guess I'll have to wait longer for the next update Brainy Teen. Sorry Mastermeat don't take it the wrong way but I tried to get into Silver Witch but really couldn't and prefer Brainy Teen over Silver Witch.
Anyway loved the chapter, loved Mary's brain washing, look out girls there's a sexy cougar on the prowl for some lesbian love *Rowr*
I think the only question I have is on Wendy's Brainwashing in this chapter. Some parts seem to imply that Wendy might relapse to her old hetero desires or is still heavily resisting. Don't you think that with all the times she's been under Sarah's mind control maybe it's time that Wendy should behave more and more like a lesbian vs. having Sarah or her agents constantly telling or reminding her that she's a lesbian? I know you're going for the slow method of mind control but I think it's some shoddy mind control if I have to go up and constantly remind someone that they're being mind controlled. If I were Sarah or her mother I'd probably demand a refund on the mind control equipment they got :p
Any way it's still a very great chapter and I really do appreciate it that you took time to work on it and post it. Sorry if my question bugs you I don't mean anything negative with it. Any way take care and can't wait for the next chapter to Brainy Teen.
I'm glad you guys enjoyed the latest chapter of BT. My current editor, DB, contributed a lot of content in this chapter so you can thank him too.
Some Random Anon, I understand and I don't mind you and some people not liking Silver Witch. I'm not offended in anyway by that fact. But, since you mentioned it, I'm curious as to why you couldn't get into it. Too coercive? Too squicky? Unbelievable setting? Fantasy not your taste?
Regarding Wendy's mind control, I think it could be described with an analogy: Slow growing trees tend to be stronger and longer lasting while fast growing trees are weaker and have lesser lifespans. Though that concept isn't the real reason I'm doing slow mind control, it makes Sarah's actions logical.
In regards to me not getting into Silver Witch. The one thing I want to make clear is that it's not your writing style. I'm just not really a fan of the magic and fantasy genre. Not sure what it is but magic and hocus pocus just doesn't interest me.
Your analogy is good and I guess from the viewpoint of Sarah's character it would make sense to go slow and steady and not rush things which tends to lead to undesired results. It's just that I think by now some of the basic stuff should have taken a firm hold of Wendy's mind. I just feel that if I were to go to Wendy right now and ask her to describe her soulmate or person she would want to spend her life with it. Right off the bat Wendy should start to describe a female vs. leading off with Daniel, hesitation, reminding herself that's she's a lesbian and then describing a female.
I can understand Wendy needing a push and conditioning for things that might not be in a traditional monogamous relationship like lesbian threesomes, being a slut around woman, incest, and S&M. I'm hoping I'm making sense in trying to get my point across and not coming off as psycho.
I do thank you for your response, and again also thank you for taking time to craft a great story for us to read.
Here's my take Some Random Anon if you want to entertain the idea. One way to look at Wendy's slow brainwashing/conditioning towards living a hedonistic lesbian sex lifestyle is that when Wendy started out she really had no or very little experience when it comes to trying to get another boy interested in her or asking a boy out.
If you recall from the very early chapters Wendy wasn't in a relationship and was wanting to get into one with Daniel. At best the only thing Wendy probably had for source material for getting dates and starting a relationship was from her mom and dad, possibly viewing and asking her older sister, seeing other girls ask and being asked out at her school and whatever she saw on TV, read in magazines, and on the internet. So essentially she lacks personal details to fill in when it comes to relationships.
To borrow a line from the movie Inception the human mind is capable of tracing the origins of an idea. If Wendy told herself that she's a lesbian or believed that she was one and wanted to go out with Lauren then there's probably going to be a part of her mind that's asking why, when did this happen, or what caused this and will try and figure things out. It wants details to fill in the gaps that the questions would create. If things don't jive then the mind could sense something is out of place and find out that a foreign influence is trying to take control and reject it.
Sarah's slow mind control process would fill in gap, guide Wendy towards a hedonistic lesbian lifestyle and make Wendy believe that she came to the decision by herself, and not something that was planted inside her head.
Any way it's just my personal take, it's not what MM uses but how I view the slow process.
Haven't watched the movie Inception, but I understand what you mean, Domino_X. Some people do question their own thoughts and actions. In the story, it's implied that mind control process isn't perfect. It doesn't overwhelm and completely overwrite the person's mind. Therefore, a portion of the original personality intact. That provides for the possibility of internal conflict within the person's mind.
Hi MasterMeat ! What to say here ? I really, really loved this chapter. For the first time since long ago, I must say I really don't have anything to say. All was nearly perfect.
Here what I really loved : - I loved the revisions on the "first part", in particular the new events showing Mary's brainwashing through the phrases and words she hears at the house. Previously, I thought (and I said it to you) that all was too much centered on Kayla with Wendy but, now, we clearly have Mary and her daughter as the new "couple" being the center of attention. That's great ! - I find the brainwashing that Mary suffers really well developed. It's nice to "hear" what the induction is, and to see to what degreee it influences her next actions and thoughts. I particularly loves the fact that the hypnosis is heavily insisting on the red colour, on the need that Mary will have to dress herself with red clothes, to wear red makeup (and I really love the fact that you insist on the high heaviness of this makeup with "layers and layers of lipstick", all the time, the same for her nails...), and to use red sextoys. Like I said, it's a totally uncommon fetish, and an exciting one ! Can't wait to see her taint her hair in red and, why not, choose to implant herself freckles on her cheeks to look like a natural red hair person (I know that these "false freckles" exist). - Like Domino_X said, I also love the fact that the sex intercourse between Mary and Shelly didn't occur. Thus, Mary will have a gap in her heart, a need to complete this moment with Wendy. - Once again, I love the wedding event, moreover when we read what Mary is thinking. Her thought going like "Is it possible ? I really didn't think of this seriously but, yes, it would be wonderful" shows her slow degradation. I really love that scene. What I hope and suggest is that the wedding would be ALWAYS here in Mary's thoughts, like a plague, but each time nastier than ever, and each time being a stronger need for Mary. About this, the Wedding event at the end of this chapter, with Wendy, was a great show of nastiness. I hope that Mary will have this sort of brainwashing soon, and even stronger ones, with details about the wedding becoming even nastier and nastier. - The event with Wendy seducing Kayla was just like it had to be. It's first time that Wendy is clearly doing the first step, and going too far with it would have ruined the atmosphere. Now that she has been the seductress for the first time, she can begin to like this and go each time a bit further (the next time, maybe she will not just kiss the girl she seduces but also lick her ear or say some sexual words ?) - Even if there are Sarah and Serena in this chapter, I think you realized that the main point here was Mary and Wendy's brainwashing and their new born love for each other. It's great that you didn't try to add too much events with Serena and Sarah, or else this chapter would have gone in too much directions.
- As always, your writing style is brilliant, especially when you describe clothes, makeup, and character's thoughts. continue this way ! - Lastly, I will say I have enoyed such a long chapter ! It's been such a long time since we read so much, and the longer the better !
Well. A fisrt on, eh ? No bad things I say about a chapter, for once ! Well, not really, just a tiny thing though : - The trasition between Mary's induction and Wendy's event was too abrupt. Doing a sort of quick conclusion about Mary's brainwashing would have been, maybe, wisier for the reader. I'm talking about this passage in case you don't know what I'm talking about : "One more machine awaited Mary. After that machine was done with her, Mary would have many restless nights due to the erotic Sapphic dreams she would have. Even her day dreams would be affected. Whenever Mary would sleep or nap, and many times when she would just mentally drift for a second, erotic dreams and visions would follow.
Music played from underwater speakers. Wendy could feel the strong bass beats in the form of bodily vibrations. There were also subliminals hidden in the music that Wendy wasn't aware of."
- Once again, I am a bit disappointed to have a chapter without Erin and Madelynn. Bit, really, I think going with too much characters on this chapter would have waste it : by doing so, you clearly had all the way to show in details Mary's and Wendy's induction. Bravo !
No, as always, some suggestions or ideas : - By reading you, I'm pretty sure that you love describing clothes for the characters. And, by comparing Mary's brainwashing with Erin's, I think that the second one lacks of something... I mean, Mary's induction is long, greatly detailed, whereas the scens with erin are a bit short. My first advice is to do something for Erin and MAdelynn like you did for Mary and Wendy : a long chapter, or something like this. My second advice : every character seems to be brainwashed in wearing some kind of clothes : slutty wardrobe for Wendy, latex/dominatrix clothes for Madelynn, and red sexy clothes (and even the wedding dress, it's a fetish too !) for Mary. So, why not adding for Erin a fetish toward some kind of clothes ? I can suggest some outfits :
- Trashy prostitute : fishnet stockings, daisy dukes shorts with leopard pattern, platinum blond hair, lot and lot of blush, flashy blue mascara and eyeshadow, ripped tank top again with leopard pattern, cheap jewelry, red lipstick with dark lip liner... A perfect cheap prostitute outfit, in fact ! It could go well with the upcoming need Erin will have to degrade herself in front of her daughter. Thus, Madelynn could give her the order to be "her" submissive whore, hence these clothes. - Taste for uniforms ; Erin could go with a fetish for some uniforms like nurse, maid, police woman, schoolgirl, and of course nun. This one would give her the most exciting thoughts, since it's the most degradating thing for her considering her religious life. - Latex catsuits or plastic suits : being her daughter's slave, who is a dominatrix, it would be logical that Erin wears these. I don't think it's much exciting, though, and these clothes are too much like what Madelynn is wearing sometimes.
- In fact, if we think about it, the only intercourse between Mary and Wendy in this chapter was them holding hands. All of the nastier event were only in the brainwashing, dreams, and was not "real". I really loved this and understand that it must not go too fast. But I suggest that you don't rely too much on this. After all, what is the most exciting is too see, in the real world, what the characters are indeed doing after thier inductions. I loved when you described Mary's new fondness for her daughter, in particular her "heart beating faster", or "her eyes drifting unconsciously to Wendy's eyes". It's really well done because these are the first steps when someone falls in love with another. So, continue on this way with Mary becoming more shy and awkward each day in front of Wendy, with her asking Madelynn what kind of things she loves for a present, with her watching Wendy' eyes with a big smile sometimes, etc etc... A sort of romance, but always with some perversion behind (after all, this is an erotic story !).
Well, that's all I have to say about this chapter. I must say that I am like a child because, as soon as this chapter ended, I wanted a new one ! I know it's long but please, don't make us wait too much !!
Oh, I wanted to say some things about Silver Witch : like I've said before, your style is not the cause for me not liking the story as much as Brainy Teen. Like I said, it's the lack of fantasy , whereas the magical setup could permits all kind of "impossible" fetishes in a real world. If I have one advice to give you about Silver With : go wild with it ! Go beyond the limits, imagine everything and don't be stuck on formal and common sapphic relationships : You can imagine a girl being so strongly brainwashed to believe she is a cat that her body will believe it too and start to transform into a furry catgirl. You can imagine that a shy girl wants to have a "big" sister that would help her, and an evil twin version of herself materializes and fuck with her. You can imagine some age regression, with a strict mother turning into a 14 years old teenager. You can imagine a girl who has a curse : each day, she must frenchkiss with another girl or, at evening, she would turn forever into a total nymphomaniac with no bounds. Problem is that each kirl she kisses becomes a lesbian.
And so on.... So much possibilities with your original setup, so don't waste it !
One post agin to ask you some "out of the subject" questions :
- Brainy Teen seems to be on the way to be a really long story. There are really many characters. Mary's brainwashing has just begun, Erin is more or less at the same point, the whole plot is clouded in darkness, some fetishes have not been introduced... I know that each chapter is a lot of work for you and I fear that, in the future, you will lose your motivation. Could you please reassure me and say that you will not drop your story, like many authors do on the net ?
- After Brainy Teen and Silver Witch, do you plan to write another story ?
- From your point of view, what is the character you prefer in Brainy Teen ?
Nearly perfect, lol! I never expected my writing to be anywhere close to that. Again, my editor contributed a lot of content and some readers provided suggestions and corrections. The chapter became a lot better because their effort. Otherwise this chapter would've been different.
The abrupt transition can be fixed in a revision. Erin's initial brainwashing, which I didn't write about, would be included in detail in the next chapter as a flashback. Additional brainwashing for Madelynn on par with Wendy's in this chapter could be done in the next chapter too.
Haven't really thought about Erin's style or fetish yet. I'm considering the fetishtic outfits (nurse, nun, etc.) you suggested, but I would also like to add something else. How about a strong taste for mannequins, dolls, and machines/robots?
I understand in magical setting many possiblities could be opened up, but I don't want to do too much just yet. It's would get too messy. Each new fetish (e.g., like catgirls, evil twin sisters) would require a new character with their own individual story.
Regarding your questions:
I definitely won't drop this story because I love writing it. My motivation comes from the enjoyment of writing out my fantasies. There would more stories after BT and SW. So many scenarios to explore! There's no particular character I prefer strongly since I divided the attributes and traits I like amongst multiple characters, but I'm more inclined towards Wendy. She's the main character.
Just a thing about mannequins, dolls, and robots... Eeeer, to be frank : NO ! ^^ Sorry, but I don't find this really appealing. I prefer to imagine Erin developing a taste for sapphic relations with "real" person. Plus, I think that perverting some religious aspects of Erin's life would be more exciting and befitting for this character. For example, she had deep respect for god and the religion during all of her life. Why not creating an Erin who can't stop to fantasize about some things that are blasphemy toward the religion ? It's much more exciting to imagine the strict and conservative Erin this way : - She could masturbate in front of her mirror with a nun outfit ; then, because she would think it's not sexy enough, she could command on Internet a "sexy nun" costume, in latex. - She could do the same thing with her bride dress (that she would have keep, of course). In fact, she could develop a taste for brides to be and imagine them in totally blasphemous actions. - She could develop a strong taste for altar girls being 13-14 years old. And the more prude a girl would be, the more twisted her fantaisies would become. - She could want to prostitute herself (for women only, of course), just for the thrill of this forbidden act that is going against god's teachings.
Etc.... No, really, dolls and robot are, I think, not for Erin.
I could never understand the robot fetish. Out of everything, I enjoy reading about how the character feels. If one removes feelings, then one gets a robot that doesn't feel anything and is about as exciting to read about as a vibrator. That is not to say that you shouldn't write out your fantasies MM, just be mindful that not everyone 'gets it', and you might want to concentrate a bit more than usual on colorfully describing the allure of the fantasy.
I kind of like the idea of Erin having an outfit fetish. If you're to entertain the idea. The way I see it Erin before falling under Sarah's control probably had a set rigid pattern she always followed when it came to the clothing she wore. After falling under Sarah's manipulations she her conservative style has been replaced with a desire to throw her conservative fashion style to the wind and try various outfits in public.
For example instead of wearing a blouse and khakis at work on Mondays now she wears a sexy secretary outfit that one would see in porn movies. At home she would put on a sexy french maid outfit. Also to try and satisfy this desire Erin could start looking for ways to wear fetish costume outfits in public. Maybe either have Madelynn, Elena, or Sarah refer Erin to a fetish club. Of course at first Erin is unaware that it's a fetish club. They can tell her that that it's an indie female actors group putting on costumes for various small plays when in reality it's a group where women put on fetish costumes and act out lesbian porn fantasies.
Not sure on Erin having the robot/mannequins/dolls fetish. Is Erin wanting to become one? I guess I can kind of see it. With her heavy religious leanings it could imply that Erin is always looking for control in her life. Essentially someone telling her what to do with herself. So now under Sarah's control she wants to become a living doll/robot because it would key in to her desire to follow orders, and of course it would involve her wearing fetish costumes to proudly show off how good of a follower she can be.
Any hope you're doing well MM and can't wait for the Silver Witch update. Take care and hope to see it soon.
Good gravy I really should proofread my replies before clicking the button. Meant to say Any WAY I hope you're doing well MM and can't wait for the Silver Witch update. Take care and hope to see it soon.
Thanks for the Silver Witch chapter update MM. The concept that interests me with Silver Witch is how the mind control works in Silver Witch. For me in Silver Witch the more and more Emma uses the magic taught to her by Galatea the more her mind is being altered into a becoming a lesbian and she succumbs to Galatea's will. Also there's Candice who maybe seduced by the allure of power that Galatea could offer her. Where in Brainy Teen the mind control is primarily initiated by drugs, psychological tactics and technology. Any way thanks for the update and can't wait to see it and don't feel rushed to put it.
I'm glad to have some news from you, MasterMeat. You know, even if I don't leave comments very often, I still check every day your blog to see if there are some new comments or, better, chapters. ^^
I'd like to answer the last suggestion from Domino_X. from my point of view, having Erin develop a fetish for certain clothes or outfits is a really great idea. but that doesn't mean we can't bring it abruptly, without some consideration about the character. I don't see why Erin would want to wtart wearing sexy secretary outfit at work, or a french maid costume at home, like that, without a bit of depth. Moreover, I don't see (for now, at least), why she would want to start wearing some things that "she would have seen in porn movies". Don't forget : Erin is a totally prude character, strict, conservative. even if she's brainwashed, I can't for now imagine her wanting to throw away all her inhibitions and beliefs without a second thought, without struggling.
Each character, in Brainy Teen story, is brainwashed toward a specific fetish : - Wendy will become a slut who love to wears sexy clothes and seduce every girls and women. - Madelynn undergoes a "gothification". She will be a total nasty bitch, without any morals nore limits, vulgar, perverse, loving only crude sex and despising love. Piercings, tattoos, latex clothes, and crude speaking will be her everyday life. - Mary will become totally in love with Wendy and, to a second degree, have things for teen girls. Fashion speaking, shhe will be obsessed with red clothes, extreme and heavy makeup, and bridal dresses. - And finally Erin will be turned on by depravation, submission, and maybe blasphemous acts.
But all of this, for the moment, has been developed with a progressive pace and, above all, with a logic. A twisted logic sometimes (due to the brainwashing), but something in which the characters are believing : - Wendy wants to become a lesbian slut for conquering Daniel (replaced later with Lauren), because she thinks that it's her true nature, and because she would find that being a slut is not a bad thing, moreover something more or less "normal". - Madelynn wants to save Wendy at first from Sarah's hands. But then, she is blackmailed by Elena. She then starts to develop a taste for a nastier way of life, and starts to love dominance and power. Above all, she is starting to refuse orders from anyone, like her mother. And because she wants to be the "mistress" in charge, she is slowly diving into a more "agressive" fashion style. Her goal is to conquer Wendy again, to be in charge, to be always "more than Wendy". That explains some of her new gothic nature : she wants to be above the commoners, to be seen as THE gothic slut who will take command.
- Mary wants to have some free time with her daughter Wendy. At first because she's worried about her new looks, then because she wants to have some mother/daughter free time only for the pleasure, then because she feels that she's starting to fall in love with her. She would start to feel unattractive enough and would want to "do honor" to her daughter beauty, and try herself some new things, to be a beautiful wife. Her choice of red clothing and heavy makeup is a way to expose herself, to try to gain Wendy's interest. She wants to be seen, and for that she has to go extreme on her looks. - ........ and then, we have Erin. Do you see the problem with your suggestion ? I don't see why Erin, even if she starts to develop submissive fetish and a need for depravation, would want so quickly to wear sexy outfits without a logic behind this. Maybe if Madelynn, one day, orders her to do so, but Madelynn becoming Erin's mistress is not gonna happen before some times, I think. Before that, I think MasterMeat has to "construct" the logic that would guide Erin's new behaviour, new fashion style, and new tastes. ---> Why Erin would want to obey her daughter ? ---> Why Erin would want to do depravated things ? ---> Why would she go against her religious beliefs ? etc etc...
I've suggested before that, why not, Erin could develop a taste for costumes. But why ? that's the big question. The other would be how could she be persuaded to do the act, to really wear (to quote your suggestion) a french maid costume at home ? Secondly, I think that Erin wearing a sexy secratary outfit at work is not really exciting. It's common, really. She would start to wear it, and then ? I think that, like every mind control erotic story, it's more exciting to make a character do things that he would REALLY despise if he was in his normal state. For Erin, I think we have to find the inspiration in what we know of her : - She is prude - She is conservative - She places religion above everything - She despises sex, and more than all sexual intercourse that don't follow god's teaching. Yes, that means she really hates homosexuality, and that she hates even more incestual relationships. There is absolutly no way she could think of doing this at least a tiny second !
So.... It's obvious : having Erin acting to do what she is not meant to do is the wisiest way to make some exciting events, and to see with pleasure how she could be brainwashed to do so.
If we follow this logic, we can imagine that, at the end of her brainwashing, Erin will be a woman who, for example : - love to do nasty things in nun outfit - love to do something as sinful as incest - love something as blasphemous as sapphic relationships - love to prostitute herself
Why would she loves all all this ? That is the most difficult part to construct, and I think that MasterMeat is here the only one who could decide which way the character will take. Maybe she would start to feel a taste for submission because the brainwashing could insist that her need for religion is, in fact, a need that she always had to be told what she has to do. But God isn't here, while her daughter Madelynn is ; then she would start to feel the need to be given orders by a more "concrete" person. Maybe she would start to feel a need to do blasphemous things because God never responded to her prayers. Blasphemy would be a way to express her anger. Maybe she would want to go into depravation because she would start to feel that she is a good-for-nothing : her husband betrayed her, her daughter is not listening to her, her life is empty, etc... She would want to be treated like a trash for this reason, becasue she would think that she doesn't merit to be seen as someone who is worthy of respect. etc etc...
Those are just some ideas, but I think they are following some logic, and that they could be believable when we analyse the character of Erin.
Anyway, let's bring another subject. Some questions for MasterMeat :
1) Have you already started to think about Wendy's sister character ? And mostly of what she could become ? I, for myself, don't see really well what you could do with her. She has to develop a fetish who is not already in the story, and the same would go for her fashion style. The big problem is that, as soon as she will go back to Mary's home, she will start to notice all the changes. Mary is just beginning to be brainwashed so, maybe, she will not start to act like a slut and wear red slutty clothes and makeup at first ; so that could pass. But Wendy has already a slut attitude. So, unless Wendy's sister is an idiot, she will be on her guards. Moreover if she starts to see her mother flirting with Wendy ! And if we are to see, in the finals, the wedding between Mary and Wendy, of course you'll have to find something with her sister... So, what are you planning to do with her ? For the new fetishes that could be introduced, there are not many of them left. Some extreme, of course, could be imagined but since you clearly said that some things like Bestiality or Ethnic Modification will not make their way into the story, I can't really find new ideas. Maybe this one, after all : - She could develop extreme jealousy for the new attention that Wendy would get from Mary, and have some "big sister complex". She would believe that Wendy is loved because she looks younger. Then she would start to act like a total pre-teenager, a lolita, to gain her mom's interest. Ingenuity, lolita's clothes, and why not some breasts reduction ? She could be convinced by a Sarah/a pub on the net/whatever to try some hypnosis that would drop her IQ and make her act, in fact, like a real 12-13 years old daughter in front of her mother, but extremely curious about sex. Of course, Wendy and Mary would be brainwashed too so that she would not find her behaviour so strange. .... yeah, really, I don't have many ideas for Wendy's sister. Maybe when you'll introduce her in the story, who knows ?
2) Because I had already bring this idea for Erin, do you plan on doing some events with pre-teens, like a 12-14 years altar-girl, a schoolgirl from a catholic school, or whatever else ? I know it's an extreme thing, but this is only fantasy after all. I don't know, however, if it could bring problems...
3) I know it's been a sensitive subject before, but do you plan to do something with Madelynn's previous action when she was drinking piss with her orange juice ? Even if you choose to abandon this fetish, I think this event needs some explanation in a future chapter.
4) Do you have another ideas for fetishes that I've not mentioned, and that will (or would) make their way into Brainy Teen ? I know you've mentioned robots, but I think it's best you keep this idea for a story who introduce Sc-Fi or fantasy elements.
5) Am I not annoying you with all my questions ? :D
6) The ultra-extreme-uncommon question : do you have an estimation for the next chapter of Brainy Teen ?? :) :) :)
See you soon everyone. It's good to have a place to discuss about this amazing story. Oh, and I've thought of something. To kill the time, between each chapter, why don't we provide some links showing a picture of how we personally imagine some of the characters of the story ? - For example, here is how I could imagine Madelynn at the present time, more or less : http://www.imagefap.com/photo/608818609/?pgid=&gid=4345564&page=0 - And Mary in a really near future : http://www.imagefap.com/photo/501067967/?pgid=&gid=4318159&page=0 or : http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1553077986/?pgid=&gid=3760867&page=0 Let's all find how we imagine Wendy, Mary, Maddy, and the others !! Do not hesitate to post multiple pictures if you feel the need. ;)
Youpla, interesting interpretations on the characters of the story as usual. I haven't really developed Erin's character so many things about her is open to speculation at this point. I was thinking about making Erin do blasphemous acts too, but her attitude towards these acts would be different. If she starts doing blasphemous acts, even the first act that's blasphemous would mean she's making an abrupt change. It doesn't take that many blasphemous acts to ruin one's reputation in their religion. Since you're suggesting Erin start doing these acts in anger because she thought God wasn't giving her attention, it would imply she doesn't mind making her blasphemous acts known because when you really hate the God of your religion, you pretty much don't care about other people viewing you as blasphemer. That would make Erin's change of personality and attitude too abrupt.
What I was thinking is making Erin commit blasphemous acts without making her think that it's a rebellion against her religion. If Erin thinks that she's doing it for some noble cause, that would allow for a slower change. She would feel shame for her activities and new feelings. I think the internal struggle would be more interesting when it's done like this.
Here's how it basically goes:
-Madelynn does more and more blasphemous things and gets more rebellious against her mom -Erin wants to protect her daughter and "save" her from damnation -Because of brainwashing and subliminal suggestions, Erin comes with bizzare plan to let herself be the focus of her daughter's lust, hate, domination, etc. so that she won't seek relief of those desires from elsewhere -Because Erin is Madelynn's mother and she's Christian, Erin sees herself being on higher moral ground than the "deviants" that her daughter encounters and also sees herself being uncorruptible, therefore any act they do together would be less sinful compared to the acts Madelynn does with non-Christians -Erin wants to slowly convert Madelynn back into the "right path" in a similar manner -In the process, it's Erin who slowly gets corrupted herself and she fails to save her daughter
>1) Have you already started to think about Wendy's sister character ? And mostly of what she could become ?
Haven't thought about Wendy's sister yet. The only ideas I have of her right now is that she's in college, more mature than Wendy, and more sociable compared to her sister since they last encountered each other face-to-face.
IQ reduction is a turn-off for me. It would introduce problems like friends and relatives wondering why Wendy's sister suddenly became dumb. Have to think about the lolita fetish. I like the jealousy idea though.
There should be a lot more fetishes besides extremes like bestiality and ethnic modification. How about plant fetish, leather fetish, perfume fetish, or a specific lifestyle fetish? There should be a lot more. Almost everything could be fetishsized.
>2) Because I had already bring this idea for Erin, do you plan on doing some events with pre-teens, like a 12-14 years altar-girl, a schoolgirl from a catholic school, or whatever else ? I know it's an extreme thing, but this is only fantasy after all. I don't know, however, if it could bring problems...
This would be included. I don't think that's extreme as bestiality though.
>3) I know it's been a sensitive subject before, but do you plan to do something with Madelynn's previous action when she was drinking piss with her orange juice ? Even if you choose to abandon this fetish, I think this event needs some explanation in a future chapter.
I dont think it needs an explanation. It would be reopening old wounds. However, a logical explanation would be that Madelynn loves Wendy so much that she thinks every part of her is loveable. There are people who sniff farts of their girlfriends, watch them poop, etc. Drinking piss isn't as bad as those activities IMO especially when the piss is diluted. When piss is diluted with something with a strong taste like orange juice, the piss could be unnoticeable.
>4) Do you have another ideas for fetishes that I've not mentioned, and that will (or would) make their way into Brainy Teen ? I know you've mentioned robots, but I think it's best you keep this idea for a story who introduce Sc-Fi or fantasy elements.
Robots aren't really a sci-fi/fantasy thing, especially when you go with today's technology. I've also mentioned machines, which robotics is a subcategory of. Machines are fetishsized by many people. Many advertisers like to associate sex with cars. No doubt cars are being sexualized. Here's a music video that illustrates this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY-l1OL27n0
ideas for other fetishes: metals, flowers, butterflies, specific shapes/patterns/numbers/sounds, electricity/electronics, oil, water, fire/heat, ice/cold, vibration/rotation
>5) Am I not annoying you with all my questions ? :D
No, I'm more than happy to answer these kinds of questions.
>6) The ultra-extreme-uncommon question : do you have an estimation for the next chapter of Brainy Teen ?? :) :) :)
Probably one or two chapters before the end of this year.
>- And Mary in a really near future : >http://www.imagefap.com/photo/501067967/?pgid=&gid=4318159&page=0
This photo is the hottest one out of the three you've linked. Even the lamp shades are red, lol.
Thank you for your very detailed answer. Hera are some of mine, again, to the things you've said :
1 and 2) : Yes, as strange as it could seem after what I've said, I don't find IQ loss much appealing too... It was more or less a mean to explain how Wendy's sister could become a innocent lolita. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think that if Wendy had a little sister instead of a big, all of this would be much more simple. Yes, we can imagine that if Wendy had a 12-13 years old sister, you could kill two birds with one stone : - First, you would have a really easy way to introduce a preteen in the story. Big sister can be good, alright but after all she is, when it comes to sex, someone as "normal" as Wendy and Mary before their induction. With a preteen girl, you have a young girl who seemingly know nothing or just a bit about sexuality, and who had no concrete experience yet. - Being the "innocent" young girl, she could easily fill the"lolita" role in the story. And moreover, she could be brainwashed by Sarah without twisting her IQ. it could a brainwashing that lets her be extremely curious about sexuality, and be extremely receptive to what her mother tells her about this. Thus Mary would progressively tells her that incest is right, that boys are not to be trusted, that if she wants to be really happy she has to be with a girl, that she has to find her own fashion style and exagerate it in order to be above the common other girls, etc... - She could even be brainwashed to be sad and then angry about her father being always away from home. Because she is still young, she would feel the need to have two parents at home and then it would strike her : why couldn't she have two mommies ? She would say this to Mary : "Mom, why don't you marry Wendy ? You seem to love each other, and I'll have two moms !" Mary, being not fully brainwashed, would lightly object but she will know that she has her youngest daughtr's permission. And that would destroy a bit more her reluctance about an incestual wedding. Plus, Wendy's sister could set up some little tricks to achieve her dream of having two moms. Maybe with a bit of exterior help (Sarah or Serena ?), she would let a book picturing milf in wedding dress in Wendy's room. Or encurage her mother to try red makeup. Or playing the role of Wendy in front of Mary, if Mary wants to train herself to make her love declaration. Etc etc... She could even be introduced to Madelynn who would think of a way to convince Erin to make love with her, a young preteen ( a really sinful act, indeed).
Yes, I think it would be easier to imagine a younger sister. It would mean that you would have some editing to do but you speak so few of Wendy's sister in the whole story that it would not be so difficult. But here I am, seemingly pushing you to do a major change ! maybe you have some great ideas for the future with a big sister. But I am just stating the point that, if you don't want to struggle with this new character to introduce her in the story and if you don't want to struggle to much with the introduction of a preteen lolita, this could be a way. It's up to you.
The only thing that would bother me about making Wendy's sister the younger one and Wendy the older one. Would be this nagging question of "Where has she been all this time and what has she been up to?" Surely she must have been living in the same house as Wendy and her mother, if not then with who was she staying? Was she living else where? If so why? What would cause Wendy's parents to send their youngest child away while the older one stayed home? I think this is going to be a problem when Wendy's sister gets introduced into the series. If Wendy's sister is the youngest readers like me will want details to fill in the blanks on why she hasn't been seen in previous chapters and where's she has been all this time. The "Wendy having an older sister" scenario works because it can offer a bit more plausible explanation on why she hasn't been seen or heard from. Old Sister is away because she's either in college, at a job in another city, studying abroad, and what have you.
Any it is MM's story and it's really up to him on how he wants to tackle Wendy's sister. One piece of advise I would like to give is maybe start to lay some of the ground work in future chapters. Don't have to fully introduce Wendy's sister but make her presence known. It's food for thought.
3) Ok if you don't want to talk about the piss swallowing event. i just find odd that Madelynn, bashful at fist, decided to do such an act without, at least, show some hesitation.
4) I know, there are some robots in real world that almost look like humans. But that's not the problem. Like someone else said here, intercourse with a totally non-emotional "person" is not really exciting. Having some affair with a robot is, for me, using a sex toy. It's not really different, in the process, than using a dildo.... And I would find odd that, in the story, someone would start to have some feeling for... a machine. Too much odd, in fact. Like I've said, I imagine robots in a Sc-Fi context rather than in Brainy Teen. About the other fetishes : flowers, metal, butterflies, perfume, etc... this could be interesting, but I think these are too specifics. I can't imagine many declinaisons of events with just a flower fantasy, or a perfume. A good exemple is the latex fetish with Madelynn character : she IS loving latex, but you clearly see that it can't bring a lot of events. You had to add gothic theme with her, and domination, and a taste for perversity and vulgarity, etc.. With only a perfume fetish, eeeeeer I don't know what you could add with it. That's the same for the leather fetish you've mentioned : having only this fetish is not enough to bring a lot of situations ; but having it as a part of a character new behaviour is much more interesting. If a girl is brainwashed to love leather, then you could imagine that it's a part of a new personnality. Who loves leather ? Maybe a cougar, a stripper, or a prostitute. Or why not the 3 at the same time ? Don't think only of a concrete fetish, but rather think of a new personnality for a character before thinking of the fetishes in which this personnality would reflect. I Hope I am understood, it's not really easy to explain...
Lastly, I find your idea of Erin's corruption appealing. It might even explain why Erin would start, at one point, to wear costumes like a nun or a bride. She would hope that Madelynn would react in fucking her mother in these "holy" clothes, and start to regain her personnality.Of course that would fail. We can even imagine Madelynn would know, at one point, of her mother's plot. She would be extremely angry to see that her mother is, again and again, trying to "control her", to transform her into her old self. That's why she would ask some special tailor (introduced by Elena, of course) to modify these holy clothes into nasty outfits. Erin would be blindfolded by Maddy with the false pretext of a nasty little game, and be asked to slip into these clothes. Erin would still believe it would be her old outfits, and then Madelynn would drop the blindfold while Erin is in front of a big mirror. We can imagine how Erin would be desesperate to see that her old holy clothes have been forever changed into tools of depravation, and how she would look like a total perverse in them... But in the end, she'll start to find them exciting, even if she would know that they are nasty. Unable to repress her desires, she would start to ask Madelynn to modify of all her old wardrobe into sexy versions.
Anyway, I think I will wait for now where the story will go with the next chapters. Ooooh, how impatient I am ! One or two chapters before the new year ? I wasn't expecting this. Many thanks to you, and again thank you to be so close with your readers.
Okay, I'm done with the rough draft of SW chapter 10 and sent it to my editor/proofreader. If any of you want to read it in a hurry, you could email me for it.
Someone is already helping me do the editing. I was asking if anyone wants to read the rough draft, not help proofread. If anyone wants to read it, I can send it to them. :)
In answer to Domino_X : Yes, Wendy’s little sister’s whereabouts IS a big problem. I was thinking about it when I was writing my suggestion and planned to find a way to solve the problem but, after my lengthy post, I just forgot to write about it ! ^^
Anyway, in fact this disappearance of a hypothetical younger sister for Wendy is like you have said a nagging question. I can't find many scenarios that would explain this without them being a bit twisted or awkyard. - The most believable thing I could imagine is that Wendy's little sister (I'll call her Lola, only for an easier and quickier writing) had been gone for some months in another country (or another state if the story is happening in the USA, I don't know anymore if it is mentioned in the story) into a host family because she wanted to follow special studies for her future. Maybe a Lola who, in fact, is a tomboy wanting to become a racing driver or, better, a servicewoman, could be a good idea : She would have had problems at the "normal" secondary school because she wasn't interested with the usual studies.Thus, maybe she would have started to been a bully at school, or in a less extreme way a girl with so bad records and so much class skipped that the school headmaster had summon her parents to the school so that they could find a solution together. And that's then that Lola would have agreed to leave for a military school, something much more fitting for her. These schools, I think, are rare enough to explain why Lola could have been away for such a long time. I don't know how life is really going in these institutions, but I believe that even students can't leave just when they want to see their parents ; they are learning the military life, after all... The more I think about this, the more this scenario makes me remember of an episode from The Simpson show. In the 25th episode of the 8th season (title : The Secret War of Lisa Simpson), Bart leaves for a military school in the same way and for the same reasons, with her sister Lisa. So, maybe this scenario is believable, after all ?
In fact, by following this suggestion, it could bring an interesting character into the story. If Lola is a tomboy, we can imagine that she had constant quarrels with her mother at home, Wendy disapproving of her sister rude behaviour that would not fit a young 12-13 years old girl. Thus, we can imagine that the relation between Lola and Maryy has always been electric and that, even if they are mother and daughter, they are not really liking each other's company. And so, the brainwashing could bring an interesting turn of event. Lola could be brainwashed to believe these things :
1) If she was acting like a tomboy, it's because she was unconsciously desiring to be a boy so that she could date with girls. Yes, the brainwashing would make her realize that her sexuality has always been, in fact, toward girls. Acting like a boy was a way her subconscious had find to express these feelings. Because, at her age, it's really difficult to accept her true nature, she began to act like that, because it would have been a shame for her to look like a girl, and date with another girl. She could have not bear the looks and comments from the other people. 2) The brainwashing would insist that her mother loves her, that she knows what is good for her, and that she could confess her feelings to her. Thus, Lola would (with some difficulties, of course) say to Maryy that she "thinks" she is a homosexual and that she loves girls. Mary (brainwashed too, of course), would act kindly and be secretly proud that Lola had the courage to go out of the closet, and to trust her own mother by telling her this secret. 3) Because Lola would be brainwashed to trust her mother, Mary would tell her that she doesn't have to be ashamed of her sexuality, and that in fact her mother will help her to unleash her full potential so that she would seduce other girls. She would start by telling her that girls of her age are not meant to act, dress, or speak like adults. Moreover, they don't have to act like rude people, like "disgusting boys" ; it would be a turn off for all the other girls. If she wants to attract girls, she has to emphasize her "young" sex appeal, to bring it to its extremities. And so, that's why Mary would start to "coach" Lola into becoming a lolita : a girl seemingly innocent, with flashy children or preteens clothes, little boobs, pigtails or bunches, cheap preteens makeup, cheap and flashy accessories, etc... Of course, Mary herself would be given some advices and inductions by Serena to perfectly brainwash her youngest daughter... We can imagine that Lola would be given, somewhat, the same advices that Wendy had from Sarah : not "acting" like a lolita, but "being" a lolita all the time. In the end, Lola would be so braiwashed to act like a Loli that she would become a loli : innocent about sex, not knowing the limits of what is love and what is perversion, and believing what the adults are saying to her.
- During her "training", Lola would be given the most important advice : a lolita is never doing the first step in a relation ! She can be seducting; give some hints that she's curious about sex and that she wants to make love with another person, but never she can be the initiator (or else, it would mean that she is not innocent... and that would break the illusion). We can then imagine that one of the goal given by mary to Lola would be to seduce another girl an make love to her without beginning the action, by acting like an innocent child. And the most conservative this girls (or woman) could be, the most it would be a success if Lola could seduce her. That would mean she is the perfect lolita who can seduce any girl she wants. And who could be the better candidate that Erin ? We can easily imagine that Mary and Erin have already encountered each other. Either one day at the church, or on day that Erin had come to pick up Madelynn at Mary's home, or whatever. So Mary would know what kind of woman is Erin. She then could phone to her and pretext a service : she has to go somewhere but there is absolutely nobody to "babysit" her youngest daughter. Thus, Erin and Lola would be alone at home. We can imagine the contradiction here : Lola thinks that Erin is a prude conservative woman, so she unleashes her full "loli" potential to seduce her, of course without initiate anything sexual or explicit. Erin, on her side, is believing that Lola is an innocent young girl... but by her brainwashing she is struggling with her horniness. She doesn't want to "stain" a young virgin, she doesn't want to corrupt her into sapphic relationship, she doesn't want to go against the law and against her religion by having a sexual affair with a minor... but nethertheless, all of this "forbidden" and blasphemous thoughts are making her extremely horny. We can imagine that nothing would happen at the first day. But erin, unable to contain her horniness, would be restless and always masturbating about this event. Madelynn would order her to say what is causing her change of behaviour and, of course, being submissive, Erin would comply. Madelynn would then order Erin to phonecall at Mary's home and ask for Lola, under the pretext that she has forgotten something important at her home and must come to take it. Madelynn would give strict instructions to her mother : she would have to dress herself in a seductive way, to welcome Lola in a seductive pose, and say to her "She had forgot to give her a goodbye kiss the other day." And Erin would have to fully frenchkiss Lola, and then fuck her (even if Lola would not agree... but she would not object, of course !).
In her mind, Erin would have commited horrible actions : - a seemingly rape - taking a young girl virginity (with a dildo) - sex with a minor - sapphic relationship We can easily imagine how Erin would begin her slow fall into depravation and submission after such an event... We can also imagine that Madelynn is secretly filming the scene, and keep it as a mean to blackmail her own mother : if she doesn't accept her dominance, she would send this video to Mary. Of course, at one point, we can even imagine an event where the video would be nevertheless shown to Mary, and where this one would not take offend (it was her idea to bring Erin and Lola together, normal !). But she would ask erin to take her responsabilities and, from now on, being always there for her young daughter. and why not, after all, oblige her to marry Lola ? That could lead to a wedding with Mary/Wendy, and Erin/Lola, alltogether at the same ceremony.
Well well well.... A reaaaaally long post, as usual. and moreover, a long post for wrinting about a pure speculation because in no way there is (for the moment) a slightest clue that MasterMeat would accept to modify "Wendy's big sister" into "Wendy's little sister." I was just writing to show how a young sister could bring, easily, an interesting subplot. I think that everything is believable, more or less, no ? Anyway, MasterMeat, don't feel forced to follow my lead. It's your story and, if you don't like what I've suggested or if you have better plans for a big sister, then it doesn't matter if you discard my suggestion. At least... maybe this post would has given some exciting thoughts ! ^^
Interesting way to introduce a younger sister, Youpla. But, since the mention of a big sister going away to college happened way back in a past chapter, I think people might have already had the idea of a big sister ingrained in their minds. Initially, I wasn't planning to add any sister character at all. The characters that were away from the family for reasons of work, college, or divorce are mainly for making the story easy to write. I'm going to stick with the bigger sister for now. The lolita character has to be introduced another way.
I understand. The only problem is that if at one point you wish to introduce the lolita fetish, you'll have to create another new character being a young girl (12-13 years old). Even if I had suggested some lolita's behaviour and dress code for Wendy's big sister... eeer, in fact, the more I think about it, the more I think that a lolita will have to be a young preteen. Going with loli theme on a grown up person is kind of unbelievable. The biggest advantage with creating a younger sister was, like I've said, killing two birds with one stone. Three birds, in fact, because it would have brought possible incestual relationships with a really young girl.
So, if you want to bring a lolita into Brainy Teen one day, I don't think of many other options. Maybe a cousine, a niece, or some girl that Madelynn or Wendy have to babysitt one day ? Or a young altar girl that would have to be, under Madelynn's orders, Erin's goal. Erin would have to seduce her, bring her into lesbianism, twist the religion's teachings, etc... Erin's true depravation would show in this act, where she would be unable to resist in fucking and corrupting the most pure and innocent girl that she knows in the church.
Well, don't let us wait too long for the next chapter, please ! ^^
Why does the lolita have to be Wendy's younger sister? Why not Wendy dominate her older sister forcing her to role play a lolita? Make her dress and act like a 13 year old girl in private and public. Might make for a very erotic story line. Just think a college aged female having to act and dress like a lolita, having to go out and hanging out with other 13 year old girls.
Like I've said, I find it rather difficult, in fact, to imagine that a girl who has the age of a university student (20 years old, approximatively) can pass for an innocent lolita. Yes, she could always wear lolita's clothes, but it would be more of a costume than a believable fashion style. To say the things in short, it would be awkyard, and not really appealing in a story where there is somewhat logic interactions between the characters and society. Moreover, I can't imagine Wendy dominating her older sister : it's not in her character and I clearly don't see why she would want to do this. Lastly, a 20 years old woman going with 13 years old girls... No, that won't do, nobody would believe this. And MasterMeat would have to find a GOOD reason to explain how some young pre-teenagers would accept someone like this in their group.
Nope. Like I say, and even if at one point I had imagined Wendy's older sister as a lolita, I think the role is clearly more suitable for a 12-13 years old young girl. By this mean, her innocence about sex, would it be faked or not, would not shock anyone, so as her fashion choices.
I think it's best to wait for MasterMeat to make the older sister character appear in the story. For the lolita fetsih... well, we have to wait too. Even if I loved by Lola storyline, snif... :(
You could always make the older sister a lesbian...she might even be quite happy with the changes at home when she next visits.
Madelynn (old version) seems like the kind of girl who would have been making money by babysitting for neighbours, I'm sure she might be happy to take it back up.
Looking forward to SW - any idea when the next chapter will be up?
In fact, why not creating an older sister who could be a problem in Sarah's and Serena's plot ? What I mean is that, currently, every girls or women who are brainwashed by them is powerless, and helplessly transformed into a lesbian, with all sort of fetishes. i don't know where it could lead, but just imagine that something would go wrong with Wendy's older siter brainwashing, or even that she is aware of Serena and Sarah's whereabouts. That could bring a bit of suspense into the story, and procure a sort of threat for the masterminds who are for the moment without real enemy. I don't say that Wendy's big sister would win the fight or that Sarah and Serena would see all their work with the other characters destroyed, but seeing someone who could stand up against Sarah and Sereana (even if she loses at the end, at least she could be a real pain in the ass for them and make them change their plans) could bring a change of pace an bring some spices in the story.
Anonymous, I'm not sure when the next chapter for SW would be up. I don't want to rush my editor. He works at his own pace. Like what I've said before, if you want to read it, I could email the rough draft to you.
MM Nooo, I was just worrying that the story didn't have a future since it had been a while. I was clumsily stating my happiness that a new chapter would shortly appear:) Take care x
I have a 14 year old niece that dresses, acts, and looks like a 22 year old she's gone into night clubs and no one has asked for an ID. So if a 14 year old can look like a 22 year old then why is it such a stretch for a 22 year old to look like a 14 year old? Besides Brainy teen is a fantasy mind control story.
You can't imagine the embarrassment it would be for a 22 year old would feel being forced to go shopping in the girls department for clothes that make her look like a teenager then having to wear those clothes and act like 14 year old 24/7? Then the added embarrassment of going out and making new 14/13 year old friends and then having to introduce those new friends to her younger sister and mother while still acting 13/14?
What works in one sense doesn't neccesarly work in the other one. I'm aware that some pre-teenagers can look like they are 4-5 years older. They are what we call "jailbait" girls. But this is because some teenagers grow faster thtan others. This is puberty, nothing else. On the contrary, a 22 years old woman has her body fully developed. She can't, for God's sake, pass for some girl who is 8-10 years younger than she is. Her breasts are in full blosom, her height is taller, even her body hasn't the frail aspect of a pre-teen. You can verify this with all the "lolita" porn on the web : when a 20 years old woman tries to look like a lolita, could it be with clothes or behaviour, it never fools the audience. It just becomes a costume fantasy, something that is not believable.
Storywise, a 22 years old woman going with 13-14 years old teenagers would not go really well with the story. Wendy's older sister would be immediatly seen, on the spot, as someone who is not "normal". It would draw the attention on herself and on her family. The parents of the teenagers and the teenagers themselves would not accept someone like this. She would not pass for a lolita but for a weirdo, point. Or else, MasterMeat would have to introduce a group of pre-teenagers who are already under Sarah's and Serena's influence. But that would be a lot of work and a lot of new characters for something as trivial as this.
Nope, I think that, given the logic that is always present in brainy Teen, the lolita fetish can only go well with a young girl. That would spare not oly a lot of work, but that would also follow a much more simple route for introducing and the lolita fetish, and the character who will be the lolita. That's why I personally think that Wendy's sister, if she is indeed older, would have to picture another fantasy. Why not the trashy prostitute I've suggested some times before ?
Hope everyone here had a great Thanksgiving, and enjoying the current Holiday season. In regards to the Lolita fetish for Wendy's sister. Just because MM has stated Wendy's sister is the older one doesn't mean that it can't work.
As you stated generally it would be strange for a college age woman to hang around 13-14 year old young girls. However if the situation is right it can work out. For example, when Wendy's sister gets back from college during a break she volunteers to work at a community youth center or church youth group, or maybe when she gets back it's during the summer season and during that time she gets a temp job at popular hangouts such as shopping centers, movie theatres, a summer camp, or other places. That way she can be around the young girls she's being programmed to desire but at the same time she can secretly act out some of it.
Any way it's just something to mull over. For me the trashy prostitute just seems too similar to what Wendy and possibly Erin is going through with their lesbian conversion. The biggest fear I have with Wendy's sister is that it's one more character for MM to juggle and keep track of. That's why I keep making the suggestion of having Wendy's older sister already under the complete control of Serena and Hecate by the time she's introduced into the series. Just use her character as a tool to further push Wendy, Mary, Madelynn, and Erin into lesbians vs. becoming one more person added to where readers are left wondering as to what her fate would be.
In the end it's going to be up to MM on how and when Wendy's sister gets introduced into the Brainy Teen series. Any way I wish everyone here a Happy Holidays and hopefully we will continue seeing Silver Witch and Brainy Teen updates into the next year.
I think I possibly explained my point of view bad enough. The problem is not finding a way to dress Wendy's sister in a lolita fashion style. There are plenty of scenarii where she could be brainwashed to accept the idea of dressing herself like a teenager. The problem is not here... Each character in Brainy Teen is brainwashed toward a fetish and a new dress code, I've already explained that in a previous post. But each new dress code is "acceptable" by our society. even if dressing as a gothic is somewhat strange for some people, it is not so alien. Same for a girl who wears micro skirt, or one dressing only in red with lots of makeup. Those are, after all, choices that define a person's life style. Even if some don't agree with someone being pierced everywhere and tatooed, it doesn't mean the person is seen as crazy or rejected by the society. But lolita fetish is much, much different. Because it is mainly centered on the character's age. A 13 years old girl dressed with flashy clothes, acting like a child, and being a bit seductive, that could pass for everyone. Because she is young, because she might not know what sex innuendo is, because she loves this dress code and doens't where it to be a slut fucking anyone. But, if a grown up woman acts like this, then in no way she would seem normal for people around her.Because everyone knows that a 20-22 years old woman knows about sex, has surely already made love with someone, and because she knows the dress code in the society. She knows that if a gothic could pass in front of some people, a 20 years old lolita would not. She would be automatically seen as someone who has some screw balls, and in absolutely no way anybody would believe that she is innocent and is a real lolita. So yes, she could get along well with some pre-teenagers, after all. But there is no way, again, that these teens would see her as someone equal. Maybe they would have some fun, maybe they would enjoy her company... but Wendy's sister would always be "The 22 years old woman who acts as a teen, but who isn't one of them". And don't forget the parents : what would they think of someone like this who hangs around with their children ? It would bring too much things in the story to work out and think over, only for a character. And in that way, I sort of agree with your point of view : having one more character to juggle with is not an easy option. But I don't agree with Wendy's sister being already corrupted. For me, it would emphasize the fact that the character is being brought from nowhere, only for story's commodities, as if it would say "Well, I have no idea for Wendy's sister role and corruption, so let it be that way". That would be really awkward. And if I insist on a "real" lolita being 12-14 years old, there is another reason : not only this is much believable, but also stories with pre-teens lolitas (and possibly lesbian incest with them) are rae. This is not a so common thing, and that would add much more originality in the story.
Anyway, like you've said, let's wait what MasterMeat will do with her. Speaking of which : MasterMeat, you've said that we could possibly see a new chapter for Brainy Teen before the end of the year. Can we still believe you ? :)
Mind if I ask what is taking it so long? I've had the pleasure of reading the "alpha version" more than a month ago now. Thought you would publish it in a week or so.
@Youplay, I see you're point from a story logic point of view that having a young college student constantly hanging out with young teen girls can or will be seen as weird at best and not appropriate by a good deal of people. I mentioned it before but if you're wanting to see a lola fetish maybe it would be best to see it happen in Silver Witch since Emma has a younger sister that fits the criteria and can be corrupted.
This talk about a lola fetish did have me thinking on one thing, and MM can probably clear this up. Didn't MM mention that one site had an issue with his stories because the age of consent was vague. So if he introduces a lola fetish into Brainy Teen and Silver Witch, which would have a character clearly be the legal age of consent, wouldn't that limit as to where he can publish his stories.
@MasterMeat, Hurrah for another Brainy Teen chapter before the year's end :D
Just out of curiosity did you get any feedback from your editor on chapter 10 to Silver Witch. I liked the advanced copy and just wondering if you got any feedback from your editor and planning to publish it soon on your site. Any thanks for the update and can't wait for the new Brainy Teen chapter.
Have another question if you don't mind answering. Any way you could tell us if the Brainy Teen chapter that you're working on is going to continue directly from the events from chapter 18 or is it going to be a Madelynn-centric chapter?
Oooooo! I love Madelynn chapters! (Her unsuspecting transformation into a pierced fetishwear clad goth/punk dominatrix from a cute nerd-girl is simply EPIC... and I cant wait to see what happens to her mom.)
It does look that way and since that's the case that would mean that MM is working on both chapters at the moment. We probably don't say it enough but we really are thankful and do appreciate that you take the time to get these stories out to your fans MM. Hope everyone here is having a joyous holiday and will have an awesome 2014.
I had a thought on how to deal with Wendy's older sister. If introducing her into the story now would cause you plot problems or distract from the main thrust of the story, you could simply avoid it.
If you make her a "daddy's girl", she could simply become estranged from her mother when she finds out they are divorcing and when Wendy defends her moms decision her sister then could refuse to have any further contact with either of them. This would have the advantage of allowing you to move the plot forward without adding any further complexities (or characters) for now. It also leaves open the possibility of introducing her into the story at a later date.
I was planning to publish the latest SW with my own revisions, but the editor that I was waiting for had just sent me the edited draft. Now I have to work on it more before releasing it. :)
Stumbled across this vimeo link and thought I would share it, if it's okay with you MM. It's the lesbian sex scene from the movie "Blue is the Warmest Color" and when I saw it the blue haired girl kind of made me think of goth Madelynn. She's probably not the exact image you had in mind with Madelynn's goth look, but I thought it was cute.
Seasons Greetings, and I wish you a Merry Christmas Mastermeat. Also want to extend the holiday wishes and merriment towards everyone that stops by here. Take care and have an awesome Christmas and hopefully that leads to a very joyful new year.
Not 2014 yet, but yeah here's to a awesome 2014 to everyone here. Hopefully it involves continuing to read new chapters to Brainy Teen and Silver Witch on top of whatever your New Year's Wishes and Resolution will be.
Sweet! New chapter to Silver Witch is up. Hopefully that means that the new Brainy Teen chapter will follow soon. Definitely enjoying how Emma is struggling with Galatea's influence. Emma using what magic spells she knew to protect herself and her family when Jennifer discovered that she was a witch but instead it ends up leading her further into lesbian corruption. Also on top manipulating Emma's mind to seek out girlfriends it seems that Galatea is trying to hook her up with her own recent converts, Janet.
I also like the fact that Candice's coven isn't all goody goody, sunshine and lollipops and there's a hint of greed and desire for power within the leadership. More fuel for the fire in regards to Candice's converting over to Galatea's coven.
A one suggestion that I would like to make for future chapters of Silver Witch. This chapter introduced Emma unlocking a level when she transformed into a lesbian magic princess, which granted her larger breasts. Maybe for a future level the lesbian magic princess transformation grants Emma a young adult body. At first maybe she thinks she could do some good with it. For example she thinks she could use it to get a part time job to help her family out or help her friends out when a situation calls for an adult being present. However Emma isn't fully aware of what it entails for example to summon and transform into the adult body requires Emma to commit a lesbian act. Also in order to maintain it Emma has to constantly think lesbian thoughts or else she reverts back to her original body.
I'm also wondering if Emma's sister, Ella, who was mentioned in Chapter 3 of Silver Witch, will come into play in future chapters. For example Galatea tells Emma that there's magic that is flowing in her family's bloodline and given how rare magic users are in the modern world. That she's has no choice but to also convert her sister, Ella, over to her coven in the name of magical self preservation. Of course Emma objects but Galatea manages to twist things around in her favor.
Any way great chapter as always MM and can't wait to read more. Thanks for the update and hope you and your loved ones have an awesome 2014.
"unlocking a level when she transformed into a lesbian magic princess, which granted her larger breasts" - LOL. When you sum it up like that the story feels seriously superficial :)
Great chapter update to Silver Witch Mastermeat it was a very good read. However I was looking forward towards reading the new Brainy Teen chapter vs. the Silver Witch chapter. Believe you mentioned you try and have it out by the end of the year but I guess it got held up. Is it possible to give us a rough estimate on when it might be released?
Thank you very much for this new Silver Witch chapter, MasterMeat. I don't knwo the story in as much details as Brainy Teen's, so I can't give a precise feedback. I will just say that I really loved the "kiss induction" with the unknown redhead. It was exciting to see how she had her beliefs and tastes transformed with each kiss. Moreover, when you give a track of the "kiss number", it's exciting AND fun because, before the event, we can try to imagine what will happen at the 1àth kiss, for example. Personally, I would have loved to see Emma go wild with her spell and give something like 40 kiss to the redhead girl ; I wonder what would have happened with such a strong horniness...
Like Anonymous said in the previous post, I'm curious about the next Brainy Teen chapter. Is it finished, or does your editor prevents us again of reading it ? If that's so, perhaps you can still post the unachieved version, like you did for Chapter 18 ? Hope to have some news from you and to read the sequel to the story very soon ! And.... HAPPY NEW YEAR 2014 !!!
There was some talk a while ago about doing a side story involving Brainy Teen and reader contributions, but the project feel through. Don't see any harm in trying revive the project, maybe a side story/spin-off story could be beneficial. For example, we could use Wendy's sister as a character in the spin-off it's something to mull over.
Bummer to hear, hopefully it's not too bad. The only thing I can think of in regards to writer's block is to sometimes take a break, step back, and come back later. There's also of trying to work backwards. Think of how you want the chapter to end and then work from there. Any way thanks for the update and hopefully you'll chisel that writer's block into an awesome work of art :)
Aaaww, too bad to hear... I hope you'll be able to find again your inspiration. Until now, you have always written wonderful chapters so don't feel stressed : I'm sure that you'll be able to produce something that will, again, be a blast to read. And if you need advices or anything that could help you, just ask us. Who knows ? Maybe we'll give you some nice ideas or highlight some spots that you never thought of. Just keep us informed of how things are going, ok ?
By the way, another picture that made me think of what Mary is fated to become : http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1158386924/?pgid=&gid=4511961&page=0
lols - lost all the comments, but it got comment technically awkward anyways:) MM I love the stories, please don't stop AND I am waiting on the next update on either story like someone on the edge:) lols x
ReplyDeleteNothing lost. Just archived.
ReplyDeleteMM, dude, when's the next installment in either of the series coming out? We're all itching to read what happens next :)
Sorry, I was busy with something else. I'm working on it now. Give me two weeks.
ReplyDeleteAwesome news to hear, no need to apologize I think everyone here knows that you have events in your life that you need to take care off and that BT and SW are hobbies you enjoy working on and sharing. Thanks for the update MM and can't wait to see it.
ReplyDeleteTotally agree with that!
ReplyDeleteHope everyone here is having a great Memorial Day. Sorry MasterMeat but I'm going to have to ask the question that's probably on everyone's mind and ask how the newest chapter to Brainy Teen is coming along?
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It's been towo weeks. Two weeks ! ^^
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXXciatnxqc
More seriously, I'm waiting for the next chapter ! I didn't let a feedback next time because I'm waiting to see where the story will go. I will just say that I really enjoyed it, especially the idea about Wendy's "cosncience" telling her that her mother is a lesbian. It's much more funny if Wendy is the one who will doubt about her mother's sexual tastes, and act as if she was the one who found this.
I hope we will see a bit more of Madelynn's and Wendy's moms in the next chapter. In my opinion, it's time to do some events with them. ;)
Thanks MasterMeat for your stories. I'll wait, as usual.
The first half of chapter is done and has went through the first round of proofreading by a 2nd editor. I'm working on the second part now.
ReplyDeleteFunny video clip, Youpla. Lol, I was half-expecting the scene where Arnold's eyes were popping out. I remember watching Total Recall a long time ago.
Happy Memorial Day, everyone.
Thanks for the update MM, hopefully we'll get to see the new chapter by the end of the week *crosses fingers* From your reply I'm going to speculate that chapter 18 might be lengthy if you had to break it down into 2 parts. That really has me anxious to read it.
ReplyDeleteGreat to hear from you Youpla, and loved your youtube link. Also agree with your opinion that Wendy and Madelynn's mothers need to start getting more involved or start to participate with their daughters lesbian mind control education.
So while we're eagerly awaiting the newest Brainy Teen chapter. Thought I'd ask an question and get opinions on it. So a few days ago me and a friend were watching some 80's action show and the premise is that the main character's best friend is kidnapped by some shadow organization and brainwashed into a secret assassin and it's up the main character, I think his name was Mac, to stop it. Anyways the whole thing lead into a discussion about mind control and this is where it kind of split. Does anyone here think that body control should count as mind control? What I mean is, if someone is controlling your body and moving your body against your will and your mind and persona is still intact, is that mind control? Me, personally I say no, but my friend argues that it does. Figure I'd get an opinion here.
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Agree with MM that it's a bit of a gray area. One can argue that body control can be seen as mind control because you have someone's mind controlling a body that is not their own, but that's probably were it stops. With mind control a foreign mind is now in charge of the target's mind. Example, you have a person who doesn't like to eat carrots. With body control you control that person's body to eat the carrot but that's person's mind still dislikes carrots. With mind control the person's mind is now altered to enjoy eating carrots. In the end it's really going to be a matter of how it's used, what results of the control and if the audience believes it to be apart of mind control or not to determine if body control can be seen as mind control.
DeleteDomino, your definition of body control is why my friend believes that body control is mind control and not a different form of control all together. She perceives that a mind controlling a body and/or mind is mind control regardless if the victim's mind is being altered. Times like this I really wish I could mind control people :p
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Well, this is a gray area for me. Body control could be considered mind control because the human mind could be influenced by bodily sensations. A person's mind could be "broken" or even killed if you put their body through enough stress. This is what happens in Stockholm Syndrome. Being kidnapped, confined, and having one's life threatened is a form of body control even though it isn't direct. On the other hand, body control couldn't be considered mind control because not everyone responds to physical stress in the same way.
ReplyDeleteBtw, chapter 18 is done. I'm just waiting for my editor.
:D lucky editor
DeleteJust a suggestion: Earlier Wendy had started admiring the bodies of her friends...be good to see her doing more of that on a subconscious level but in more detail. Also, the more her basic morals are subverted the more "depraved" her thinking should become esp as she is supposed to becoming a lesbian "slut" the less her previous mores should come into play at all. At least that is the idea I get from Sarah's plan. Unless...this is what is planned for her mother. Someone who should be guiding and protecting her could become someone who is pushing her into more and more depravity?
ReplyDelete...and at first she would feel a bit shocked/hesitant about her fantasies but as time went on she would not only not feel shocked but enjoy them and actively indulge in them.
DeleteNot a bad suggestion in regards how Mary, Wendy's mother, gets involved with transforming Wendy into a lesbian slut. All I know is that Mary's involvement and lesbian interactions just need to be different from what is happening between Madelynn and Erin, Madelynn's mom.
DeleteErin is being transformed into a lesbian submissive lover for Wendy. One that will help bring out and enhance the dominatrix persona in Madelynn.
So whatever Wendy's mom becomes needs to be something that will push and drive Wendy towards being a lesbian slut.
D'oh! Meant to say that *Erin is being transformed into a lesbian submissive lover for Madelynn* :p
DeleteCan't.... bear.... anymore.... the wait !!!! Arrrg....
ReplyDeleteByt he way, I think of some ideas about Madelynn's possible future inductions. It seems that, at the end of the current chapter, she'll have to make a choice concerning her beliefs in religion.
Maybe Lauren and Elena could twist her thinking with some logical thinking. I think that, for example, if Madelynn hesitates to go further in her gothic and dominatrix looks, Elena or Lauren could say to her that if she want to recall other peoples she's not as nasty as she sounds, and if she wants to keep some reminder of her religious life, she should have the possibility to tattoo on her arm or leg (or whatever, after all) some crucifix. Madelynn would think it would show her religious "morals", but instead we all know what a gothic having crucifix's tattoos on her body seems to be for the people seeing her...
In the same order of ideas, she should, like always, struggle between her old and new self. And if she would be ok to tattoo herself with "religious" tattoos, she would crave to have at least some of them going with her "dominatrix" side. And then she would be adviced that she could always tattoos herself with nasty paintings but, if she fears to show them in public, then the best would be to have these bad tattoos in more private places. Like pubis, ass, breasts, for examples.
With the videos she would make and put in Wendy's locker, then Lauren would tell her that if she doesn't want to be suspected by Wendy to be the girl behind the mask, she would have to act as the extreme opposite as "Wendy's long life friend", the prude and kind Madelynn. And also learn to disguise her voice a little. Then, Maddy would say the most nastiest and dirty things in the videos, releasing all her potential, becoming a totally different person, and learn to speak with a sulkry dominative voice less higher than her usual, so that Wendy would think the girl on the video is not known to her.
What do you think of this ??
For Wendy, I love the fact she is brainwashed into always dressing beautifully while masturbating. That could be the start of her need to be ALWAYS seductive when she thinks about sex or seducing. Likewise, because she'll suspect her mother is a lesbian, we can imagine that, when she will try to seduce her (but step by step, and very lightly at the beginning of course, just for testing her...), she would find absolutely impossible to do it in her casual clothes. She would always has a "bit of something on her", like lipstick, or really short jean shorts with a biiiig rip on one of the ass cheek :
"Mommy, I've just fallen and ripped my shorts. Can I still wear it in a "punk" fashion, or do you think it's too vulgar ??", with beautiful panties being seeable through the ripped part.
" Oh... ohh god sweety. It's a bit too much and people will maybe misjudge you. For me, I know that you're my gentle daughter so, if you want, it doesn't bother me if you wear this in the house. Don't worry.", responded Mary while her heart pounded faster than ever."
Nice start, isn't it ?? ^^
Anyway, before going too far, i'll wait the next chapter. I hope we'll see it by the end of the week. ;)
More kinky to have her USE her beliefs in her domination....
Delete...and having Mary trying to resist Wendy but losing to the temptations but each time feeling guilty. So, while she "reluctantly" is in a strong sexual relationship with Wendy she doesn't want to do more herself. So, instead she pushes Wendy into becoming more and more depraved. Not sure if this is the route that MM wants to go down but persuading Wendy she should walk on her BJ skills...introduces the local pound? That kind of thing?
Ummm "work" not "walk
ReplyDeletePatiently waiting:)
ReplyDeleteLooks like MM's editor is holding out on us :p
DeleteYoupla, it's hinted in the last chapter of the direction Madeylnn is heading. Remember the symbol on Lauren's dildo? Crucifix tattoos might become contradictory with her beliefs that will eventually change later on. I won't do that many tattoos and definitely not body paintings. However, I like your idea about Madelynn acting the opposite of herself in the video for Wendy. It forces Madelynn to act more nasty without changing her quickly. As for Wendy and her mom, yes, it's going be something like what you've imagined, but they would continue to struggle with their feelings.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous' idea of using beliefs against the believer is very good, and I've done something similar in chapter 18, just not on Wendy. It fits very well with the slow seduction process because the person being mind controlled doesn't throw away her beliefs entirely, but alter and distort them. I'm not sure what was meant by the local pound. Something dog related?
My editor told me had been very busy, and he's working on it now.
I don't mind if Madelynn ends up getting one or two tattoos, she gets too many it just becomes unattractive. The only thing that would irk me is all it was just words. Most of the mind control stories just has a person getting a tattoo that says "property of so and so" and that's it. Tattoos like that are just a waste to me.
DeleteI hope it's not a dog pound. Please tell me how lesbian = dogfucker. It doesn't, there's been nothing established in Brainy Teen that even remotely indicates Sarah wants Wendy and Madelynn to desire beastiality. MM I implore you to not introduce beastiality at all into your Brainy Teen series. It goes against everything that you've established.
Well that's enough from me for now. Can't wait for chapter 18 :)
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In my personal opinion the biggest problem with trying to get tattoos in stories is the fact that they are primarily a visual medium. Everyone has their own visual tastes of what's good and what's bad. So saying for example, Madelynn gets a tattoo of a rose on her left arm. There's probably about hundreds ways this is envisioned by the reader, and what about someone that's not fond of rose tattoos, what if they wanted a barbed wire tattoo around Madelynn's left arm. Your example of disliking tattoos of words is also an example. So it's essential trying to find some kind of visual description that a majority of readers can enjoy and/or agree on.
DeleteIn regards to your dislike of beastiality possibly being introduced in Brainy Teen. First, remember that it hasn't been introduced yet so lets not get into full panic mode yet. Also while Sarah has, so far, definitely no intention of having Wendy and Madelynn commit acts of beastiality there are ways to bring it in without disrupting what's been established. For example I made the suggestion that it be used as a method of punishment, Sarah showing a reluctant Madelynn what can happen if she crosses her. Another example is that it could be used in a flashback sequence. It could involve a young Sarah were she's just trying to figure out how to properly brainwash someone, and when someone is trying to do something for the very first time mistakes are bound to happen. If your primary objection to beastiality is because it doesn't fit in with what's been established in the story. There's still creative ways to see it in. In the end it's going to be MM's decision on whether it gets introduced or not. I say just wait till MM makes that decision before going in full panic.
Domino_X - nice points. Also it is good for all of us to remember that this is MM's story. He isn't getting paid for it and he can write it however he likes. The fact that he has listened to what others have written and taken into consideration is kind of him but it is not essential and those that aren't willing to enjoy what he has written should exercise their right NOT to read and certainly not to start bitching about how they wanted it to be different. Not to say that I am a fan of bestiality or tattooing either but as stated above, it is MM's story not ours!
DeleteYou're right it is MM's story and he is entitled to do whatever he feels is right for the story. I'm not a fan of beastiality but the thing that bothers me the more than that is story plots that come out of no where. As a reader of the Brainy Teen series I just don't see how beastiality fits in with what's been and being established . Does not compute is the only that comes into my mind. Anyways I don't to turn this into an argurment like last time. So what I said has been said and that's all to it.
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Just a suggestion but you might want to get a second editor anyway. There are still several grammatical and continuity errors sneaking through
ReplyDeleteWon't be able to make for this weekend's update. My editor had just sent me back a draft of the chapter. Going need a day or two to finalize this.
ReplyDeleteAs much as I want the new chapter to Brainy Teen. I'd rather have you publish it when you feel that it is ready vs. rushing it out the door. Thank you very much for the status update. I doubt waiting a few more days for chapter 18 is going to hurt us. Drive up the anticipation yes, but hurt us no.
DeleteIt's been a few days. Any chance we'll see chapter 18 soon? The wait is killing me :p
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Can we expect to read it before this week end please ?
ReplyDeleteThe additions made by my editor almost doubled the length of the chapter. I'm still waiting for him to do the "final" proof read.
ReplyDeleteOk, thanks for the news. I'll hit and hit the F5 button, as always. ^^
Delete"almost doubled the length of the chapter." Wow that's got to be one massive rewrite. Really can't wait to read it. So far the only thing I can speculate about the new chapter is that we finally get to meet both Wendy and Sarah's mother and also the infamous dinner between them where Wendy's mother is brainwashed and put on the path of becoming a lesbian and used to further turn Wendy into a submissive lesbian.
Delete"The additions made by my editor almost doubled the length of the chapter" - Dude... were you writing shorthand or something? :D
DeleteP.S. Will you be working on Brainy Teen or Silver Witch next?
Lol, I wish I knew shorthand. Going to work on the second part of chapter 18, then move on to SW.
DeleteSo.... Any date for the release, now ? ^^
ReplyDeleteI'm a bit worried because, if the length is two times what it was, does that mean we will have to wait some weeks again ???
I'm assuming from his last statement that the chapter is in the final proof stages with his editor. That the "double the length of the chapter" occurred during the first rounds of editing.
DeleteChapter 18 has been split into two parts. The first part has been published. Second part will be posted after it has been given more polish.
ReplyDeleteNice to see Wendy's thoughts actually changing.
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Hoorah new Brainy Teen chapter is up :D Well at least part of it :p Hopefully we'll get to see part 2 soon. So after reading Chapter 18 part 1 this is what I've liked so far.
ReplyDeleteAs Eugene mentioned we're seeing some changes in Wendy's personality however not a full-steam ahead rush to her becoming a lesbian slut. Personally I was hoping for something along the lines where Wendy has now accepted that she's a lesbian but not a lesbian slut. Wendy is now looking for a girl to have a long term lesbian relationship with, and possibly spend her life with. Of course Sarah doesn't want any of that and now turns things up a notch so Wendy becomes the lesbian slut that she wants her to be.
We also got an introduction to Mary, Wendy's mom, and Serena, Sarah's mom, and Mary now being brainwashed into becoming a lesbian slut like her daughter. This first part of chapter 18 definitely sets the tone that Serena is the one in charge and that Sarah seems to be a puppet in her mother's plans.
One thing that has me interested in regards to Mary's brainwashing aside from including a "forgotten" lesbian past that puts her on the path of becoming a lesbian slut and Wendy's personal lover. We get to see a trigger get planted into her, or what I assume to be a trigger from what I read. The color red seems to be used heavily into Mary's brainwashing. So I'm going to speculate that when Mary sees the color red worn or used by a female it would invoke feelings of lesbian lust. Can already imagine a few things, for example the mention of a job interview, Mary goes in and of course the person interviewing her is Serena, who happens to be wearing red business suit and Mary can't ignore the lust that she feels as she stares at Serena's body in the red business suit during the interview. Also if you want you could have it start small, Sarah gives Wendy a red t-shirt and some red lip gloss to wear around the house, and of course Mary seeing Wendy wearing these red items has lesbian desires for Wendy come over her.
The only thing I probably found a bit lacking is that it looks like Mary's lesbian desires and seduction for Wendy is similar to Erin's implanted desires for her own daughter, Madelynn. However this is only part 1 and it might change in part 2. If you don't mind, I just want to make the suggestion that as the story progresses maybe Mary should be proactive instead of being reactive in regards to dealing with her lesbian desires for her daughter. For example have her "accidentally" walking in on Wendy when she's changing in her bedroom, taking a shower, or find ways to cop a feel on Wendy's body.
She's probably not to make an actual appearance anytime soon, but with Wendy's sister I would like to make the suggestion of having her show up as a person fully under the control of Serena and an agent of Hecate Inc. vs a slow mind control like what everyone else is going through. One this would show how far the reach is of Serena's company, that it show's they can reach Wendy's sister when she's away at college, and it could be the final tool used to permanently push Wendy into becoming a lesbian seductress/slut.
That's it from me, want to end this by saying that Part 1 was great, loved it and can't wait for part 2, and hopefully we'll see it soon. Also want to thank you for putting out some great work MM. Thanks for the awesome :)
Thank you for noticing and telling me about the problem, Eugene. It's been fixed.
DeleteNice observations, Domino_X. I haven't thought about the color red as a trigger, but it looks like that could possibly be used. Yes, Mary is going to be more proactive than Wendy, but not so proactive that she's completely loses all inhibitions regarding incest with her daughter. She would still struggle with her newly implanted desires.
I would suggest her proactiveness show as being more interested in how she looks in front of her daughter. Also, Wendy's behavior is very different in this chapter and that breaks immersion a little. You need to make the transition smoother. The difference between Wendy's behavior here and in the previous chapter is in how many sexual thoughts Wendy questions and how much of her behavior is influenced by the need to "step it up", so if some of the less risque behavior was not questioned and the more risque was influenced by the need to "step it up" the chapter would've fit in perfectly with the others. That's probably something you want to do for Silver Witch, however, while for Brainy Teen you can probably find some explanation as to why Wendy's behavior changed so suddenly (e.g this being a long-term effect of the drugs on the psyche: the subject wakes up with fewer inhibitions one day because the suggestions made during the course were finally taking root and integrating themselves with the person's beliefs)
DeleteP.S. If you're interested, I could help review the works and give you my feedback before you publish the chapter. If, of course, my feedback helps you in any way :)
Nice observations, Eugene. I guess the writer and reader see things differently. I didn't know the transition was that abrupt. You already know that the difference could be partly explained by the drugs and mind control. But, there's another explanation: People aren't always conscious of their actions nor do they always rationalize their actions. They sometimes go into "auto-pilot" mode where they let their instincts and emotions dictate their behavior. Even in their most conscious, lucid mental state, people could choose to avoid rationalizing or come up with bizarre rationalization. It's a common phenomenon.
DeleteRegardless, I'm interested in your offer to help review my works. It's nice to have an extra pair of helping eyes. You could send me an email so I know how to contact you.
Couldn't find your email anywhere. You can contact me at e.gorodinskygmail.com
DeleteI'm well aware of how people rationalize or ignore their behavior, what I'm pointing out is how different 18-1 is from 17 in terms of how Wendy thinks. You didn't indicate how much time has passed between the events in 17 and 18-1, but it looks like no more than a day which wouldn't be enough for such a drastic change. Hence me suggesting mixing the rationalizing and the unconscious behavior,
Wow! Gosh! Worth the wait though I wish it hadn't taken so long.. Thank you MM, now I need to know what happens next of course. Good luck with polishing the second part of the chapter. I hope you are a quick polisher :) lols
ReplyDeleteThank you MasterMeat. It was a really good chapter. Well written, with slow and well done development. Nice descriptions of the clothes, as always, I really like this aspect of your story.
ReplyDeleteHere are the things I loved in this chapter :
- Mary's character : I find it nice that she is somewhat a "normal" mother. Wanting to be beautiful, but wise enough to understand that, well, she is not a teenager anymore and that too much makeup is not for her. It's good too to read that she's not strictly conservative like Erin : she doesn't always approve of Wendy's new behaviour or looks, but she lets it go because she gives her daughter some freedom.
Overall, she seems like a normal mother, wanting to educate Wendy as a good girl without being always behind her giving orders.
- The slow degradation of Wendy's psyche, that is clearly shown in this chapter. It's good to see her behaviour doing, at last, a big step toward her "slutty future". What is really well written is the slow "brain motion" that makes her think her new tastes are normal. I think especially of the event with the swimsuits, when Wendy is shocked at the beginning but, in the end, thinks she will be totally unable, in the future, to choose common clothes. She'll need to have vicious clothes... but she can't see anymore that these clothes are vicious. Her judgment is now completely twisted by the hypnosis, and I like this ! Other example is how she tries to rationalize that her wanting to be a "slut" is not something really shocking. It's great to read her logic !
- Moreover, I love that this chapter shows clearly the work of the inductions done on Wendy in the previous chapter. In chapter 17, we had some hints of what Wendy would love, do, become. It was a bit like a preview... and the wait is, I insist, the more important in this kind of story. Now, in chapter 18-1, we discover how these inductions are beginning to affect her in her actions and thoughts.
- I also love the thing with the red colour about Mary. It's uncommon and could lead to nice ideas I will expose later in the appropriate paragraph.
- Finally, I love that the wedding between herself and her daughter is, in Mary's conditioning, shown as her ultimate goal : the thing she will need and that her actions in the future will try to make happen. What I suggest is that, in each brainwashing session, each dream, each hypnosis event, the wedding will always be here as the last thought implanted in her head. each time stronger than before, and each time more depravated (her wedding goal would be at first a common wedding. Then she would expect a wedding where she would be dressed in red. Then in red hooker clothes. Then a "tribadism" session would happen in place of the traditional kiss. And so on..
Now, here are the things that I didn't like or that are puzzling me :
ReplyDelete- Just like Domino_X said in his comment, I think that Mary's "future new behaviour" seems too much like Erin's future relation with Madelynn. I don't know what you're planning, but it seems Mary would become a slut, totally crazy about her daughter, loving what is twisted and vicious. Well, it's just the beginning of Mary's hypnosis, and I can only speculate. But I would have like something more... let's say... light with Mary. A brainwashing less heavier, that would not totally change Mary's character. Her thinking and behaviour would not change completely : it would be her tastes that would evolve. For example, she would not wear hooker clothes because she wants to be a slut, but because she finds them pretty, that's all. Or she would not see lesbian homoxesuality as a good way to let her slutty need explode, but as something normal and that she had always craved. I don't know if I explain all of this really well... ^^
- The twisted memory with Shelly was great, alright. BUT, in my opinion, it would have been best to change several of them and not focusing on only one. I find it odd that Mary would have repressed lesbian desires only because of ONE event. Twisting her entire life with some little bits, there and there, of sapphic events would have been best and more believable. I Find the all event between Shelly and Mary a bit extreme for a first lesbian intercourse. Moreover, if Mary (in her "false" memories) has already enjoyed a full intercourse with a girl, I think she would not desire new lesbian intercourses as strongly as if she had been interrupted before the main intercourse.
Sapphic relationships would have been better for Mary if it was something she never really had completely : then, it would have been a fantasy she never managed to do, but deeply implanted in her psyche.
That's why I think maybe you should have stop the event between Shelly and Mary when they were discovered by Shelly's mother. And then, move on some time in the future. Mary with a friend at college, Mary with her mom, etc... But, well, after all, the story is not finished and you can always describe new events.
Overall, I think that Mary induction was too strong for a first one. But maybe you have in your mind a clear goal for her, that we don't think about. ^^
- Going with Erin and Mary being too much of a same character, I think it's odd that Mary finds Christian education important for her daughter, and homosexuality to be "sinful". Once again, this kind of thinking with the religion should go well with Erin, but with a second character it's a bit redondant. Especially when Mary, at the start of the chapter, is somewhat ok with Wendy's new looks and heavy makeups.
- I didn't really care about the maid, Kayla. I think she was necessary to show that Wendy can't look away, now, from beautiful girls. But I think you gave her too much importance when you should have focused on what Wendy thought of Serena or, more importantly, of her own mother after the brainwashing she had in the lobby.
In regards to Mary's memories of her best friend, Shelly, being the only one of her memories to be altered so Mary had a forgotten lesbian past. Don't forget that it was stated that Shelly met an unfortunate end in her early life, and thus ending their close friendship. The death of a loved one has a very strong influence on the life of those that were very close to them.
DeleteGoing forward this is nothing buy my personal take on the Shelly memory. I'm guessing that Serena, Sarah's Mom, did some investigation of Mary's past life and of course came across Shelly, how close she was to Mary, and her untimely death. Further review probably gave Serena reasoning that Mary never really came to terms to accepting that her best friend passed away, and in some ways trying to keep Shelly alive in her in mind and heart. For example, Mary could have named her first daughter, Wendy's older sister, Shelly and this could have been the tip off to Serena that Mary might not really accepted that her best friend Shelly has passed away. Maybe on Shelly's birthday she calls in and orders a flower arrangement to be sent and placed on her best friend's grave site.
Also, this is mostly from my suggestion of the memory alteration, but Mary probably would have shared parts of her past with her family and current close friends. So if confronted about why all of a sudden she has lesbian desires when she never indicated she had them before. Mary can explain that she had a budding lesbian relationship with Shelly but when Shelly passed away Mary felt she was to blame for Shelly's death and felt that it was divine punishment and did her best to suppress her lesbian side.
Anyways that's my take on why the Shelly memory was the only memory altered.
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Just out of curiosity you wouldn't happen to be a fan of Frankenstein MM? I ask because it just dawned on me you have Mary and then her close friend Shelly. Put them together and you have Mary Shelly or a play of words on Mary Shelley, the author of Frankenstein. Then again maybe it's just me reading way too much into things. Anyways, again want to say that 18-1 is a great chapter and I'm eagerly waiting 18-2.
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Also noticed the credit section and appreciate the shout out, you din't have to, but I appreciate it and thank you very much.
You're reading it deeply, Domino_X. Yeah, people sometimes have more influence dead than alive. It's kind of ironic.
DeleteIf Mary did name one of her daughters after her best friend, then it would trigger her memory of Shelly every time she sees or thinks of her older daughter. It kind of clashes with the idea of having a repressed memory. The rest of your interpretation is plausible.
I'm not sure if you've noticed this in the story, but it's implied that the machine has at least a partial ability to read memories. You can't really modify something without reading it first. Therefore, it could be explained that Serena knew how influential Shelley was to Mary's life without having to go out of her way to do investigative research.
Regarding Frankenstein, I don't really consider myself a fan because I haven't read the original story yet, but I like the modern works based on the ideas of her story. The word play wasn't intentional. While writing the chapter, it took me a while to notice that two names form the name of the author of Frankenstein when put together. I actually thought about changing Shelley's name, but eventually decided against it. Is this pop culture influencing subconsciously influencing my thoughts and actions? I'm not sure.
That's, I think, the only things that bugge dme in this chapter. Overall, I'll say it again, don't rush the induction on Mary and don't copy/paste what she will become and think of an incestual relationship with her daughter with Erin's path.
ReplyDeleteAnd here are some ideas, like always :
- About the red colour, here is what I think. red is clearly the most "agressive" colour, something that could not clearly pass as discretly as white or even black. Mary's new obssession on this colour could be the start of something more elaborate. She would develop taste for red clothes because she would feel, growing and growing, the need to expose herself in front of her daughter, the need to show her looks.
In fact, it would lead to an interesting goal for Mary. You said at the beginning of the chapter that she didn't like to expose herself more than necessary. She doesn't wear heavy makeups, no high heels, not much jewelry. She wants to hide herself in the mass, more or less. But that would be thrilling to see her, on the contrary, develop a taste for standing out of other peoples. The red colour would then be a good choice. And she'll begin to search new ways to show herself, especially for her daughter. In the last steps, she would finish with heavy makeups, revealing red clothes. More like a hooker, loving cosmetics and all that could expand her beauty, and exposing it clearly in front of her daughter.
- We can imagine that Mary has beginning to see that Madelynn has changed since some times... One day, Madelynn could come at Wendy's home and wait for her a bit, with only Mary being in the house. They would talk of common topics, until Mary would bring the new tastes Madelynn has for gothic clothes. Madelynn would then act a bit as a seductress, showing her clothes, asking if they look good on her. Even, for example, showing her corset, or expanding a leg to show the fishnet stockings and the high boots...
Of course, it would trigger some sexual need in Mary; moreover she she is brainwashed (as it seems) to have a preference for teenagers girls. In the end, Mary would add Madelynn looks good in her outfit, but that she thinks it would be a bit better in red.
And so, the next day, at the same hour, Madelynn would do a surprise visit. She would say to Mary that she didn't come to see Wendy, but to show a new outfit she picked up. She would enter, drop off her trenchcoat, and appear in red latex outfit. Mary would find her extremely attractive, but of course would not dare to do anything. Madelynn would play the innocent girl ("Isn't it a bit too flashy ? Don't we see my breasts too much ?"), and add that the seller gave her some free samples of cosmetics. Red lipstick, black mascara, red polish... She would ask that Mary tries them, "for fun". With a bit of hesitation, Mary would do so. And then Madelynn would say she thinks red is "her colour", that she looks especially beautiful with heavy makeups, and that "if she was a lesbian, she would fall for her in the minute".
After Madelynn leaves, Mary would masturbate herself frantically. And of course, she would decide to start wearing heavier makeups. And asking Madelynn, in future talkings, about advices... ;)
Well, I don't have many ideas because Mary's character has just been introduced to us. I'll wait where the story goes.
I now expect that the chapter 18-2 will be about Erin and Madelynn, maybe to show also the differences between this "couple" and "Mary/Wendy"'s one.
By the way, can you give us an estimation for the release of 18-2 chapter ? I'm asking because I will be moving in in a new town in Two weeks. And some time will pass before I have an internet connection. I Won't be able to read your stories, or give my feedbacks during nearly two months. I hope I will be able, though, to discover chapter 18-2 before I go. Thanks !
ReplyDeletePS : Thank you for adding me in the credits. It's always a pleasure to read you and give my feedback and/or advices. Moreover, I thank you for always taking into consideration what the readers say.
Youpla, although Erin and Mary have similar backgrounds and appear to share a similar fate as it is portrayed by the story, I don't think it's necessary to make the characters have completely different characteristics just for the sake of being different. I'm not sure if it's clear enough in the story, but Mary and Erin are slightly different in their views towards homosexuality. Mary and Erin both believe it's sinful, but Erin holds a stronger belief while Mary's stance against homosexuality is weaker. Also, did you notice that Erin is more critical of her daughter's behavior and dress compared to Mary with her own daughter? People believing in the same religion don't always interpret it in the same way.
DeleteHaving multiple characters share the similar general attitudes and behaviors doesn't necessarily make the same. There are other ways to provide variety. Mary and Erin could be given different fetishes, tastes in clothing, etc.
Mary's initial induction was strong because it was necessary. Her strongly ingrained morals and attitudes require a stronger force to override them. It was also suggested in the chapter that the mental induction was all subconscious. It's not a full-blown brainwashing that turns Mary into lesbian whore by the morning.
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DeleteLol, I'm kind of reluctant in giving out release dates now, but since part 2 is mostly done already, two weeks is possible.
I thought it was perfectly reasonable to build that particular set of false memories for Mary in that way. It would be easy to convince Mary that she had suppressed such memories, due to a mixture of residual guilt and grief that their mutual attraction led to them being separated and ultimately to Shelly's eventual death. That they are now being dragged to the surface by her growing awareness of her own daughters sexuality and Mary's "reawakened" lesbian desires makes it much easier to sell that to Mary's subconscious. Indeed, by focussing on her first lesbian lover being a teenager, this makes it easier for her to see her own daughter as a focus for her own lusts and desires.
ReplyDeleteBit of a dirty trick not letting us in on the what happened in the pool, maybe a flashback?.
No doubt it will be even easier to rebuild Mary to Serena's own taste later once she has had actual lesbian experiences and her heterosexual nature is subsumed by growing lesbian desires.
I was also wondering if you were working on the next installment of the Silver Witch. It seemed to me, that Emma is going to be more easily corrupted by her being put in positions where she has to use her new powers to manipulate other women sexually for her own ends...after all power corrupts.
Keep up the excellent work and I look forward to the next, and future, instalments.
I'm glad it makes sense for you. Repressed memories is a gray area in psychology, which makes much of it a matter of debate.
DeleteDue to creative concerns, the chapter has been split into two parts. The second part is a continuation of what happened in the first part. It continues the pool scene as well as Mary's induction by the machine. Wendy also spends some time in the machine. Madelynn and Erin doesn't appear in this chapter but they will reappear again in chapter 19.
Silver Witch will be continued. The chapters are just coming a little slower than Brainy Teen.
Want to avoid going into a long post since only half of chapter 18 was posted. However I really want to say that I enjoyed it, and can't wait for part 2. I really can't say much on Serena and Mary since they've just been introduced, and their introductory chapter hasn't been fully released. So I'm going hold off on them. Enjoyed Wendy's interactions and can't wait to see how it ends in part 2. Anyways thanks for the great chapter and can't wait for part 2.
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@MasterMeat ----> Yes, I know that people can be christians and have completly different behaviours or beliefs about religion. I understand your point of view, it's just that I was speculating. Since we only discovered Mary, I was only saying things that i feared for the character. Advices, I mean... But it seems you have your ideas about her, and that she will end as someone different as Erin, so it is good.
ReplyDeleteConcerning Mary's future inductions, in fact I have a good idea. Or, at least, I suppose it is good :
- Since you said that Mary, in her "new memory" was asked by Serena to come for an appointment about a future job at Hecate, here is how things could become.
Her new job would be to promote the new cosmetics and clothes for the society, since Mary will be brainwashed to believe that Hecate is a "fashion" industry. Thus, Serena would give to Mary free samples like red lipstick, silver eyeshadow, deep black mascara, false eyebrushes, etc... She would ask that she tries them at least at home, and give her her feedback. She would be adviced to do it in front of Wendy and to note if Wendy likes them, or how she will react, etc... The same would go with the red clothes, of course.
At the beginning, Mary would do this by obligation for her new work, but eventually would find the cosmetics and revealing red clothes to be attractive, even for her usual tastes for light makeup and common outfits. She would try more and more, and Serena would oblige to give her nastier and nastier outfits, and makeups more garish each time.
Moreover, the cosmetics (like the lipstick) would be of course drugged with pheromones or mind controlling drugs, so Mary would be hornier and hornier each time she would put makeup.
Serena would also give free samples that Mary would innocently give to Wendy. So Mary would become, unbeknown to her, a mean to emphasize Wendy's drugging.
Serena, by seeing Mary all the days at "work", would then become close friend with her, with the purpose of knowing, by discussing with her, some of her past events concerning her sexual life. Thus, it would be easier for Serena to manipulate these memories and transform them for more and more deep brainwashing.
I believe it was already mentioned that the position Mary would interview for in Hecate would be accounting, a previous position that she held at another company. Still there are a few ways to get the 'Mary into modeling' idea in there. For example Mary gets the accounting job and then Serena informs her of the company newsletter where new employees introduce themselves to the company. Serena has Mary go down to a photo studio to get some modest glamour shots done for the newsletter. Of course the photo shot is rigged. Going to borrow from an episode of GI Joe where Cobra was kidnapping models by brainwashing them with the flash from the cameras. Same concept, the flash of the cameras make Mary very open to suggestions and the photographer, another lesbian under Serena's employ, plants the suggestion that Mary agrees to moonlight as a model for her during some free time. This of course leads to your idea. It starts small, some single glamour shots or modeling of Hecate subsidiary cosmetic products and then eventually over the course of time she starts to do lesbian pornographic photos. Anyways that's my suggestion in regards to your suggestion of getting Mary into modeling.
DeleteNow that model idea with the gradual, subtle induction sounds great. Leads to a bunch of great outs to explore, and you can have it be a recurring thing, or just a one off. Invit6e Wendy, wow. Again, great idea. It's fairly vanilla, so it may not appeal to everyone, but mmm, just thinking about it gets my motor running.
DeleteMary would be adviced too to try her new looks in front of "different" persons. If Wendy's feedback would be appreciated, Serena would ask of numerous feedbacks. Like "Wendy's friends", for example. So we can imagine that Mary would ask of Madelynn to give her her feelings about new clothes, new makeups, etc... And why not imagining a sort of "défilé" at home, that Mary would do in front of Wendy and Madelynn, acting like a mannequin, showing different outfits ?
ReplyDeleteAnd lastly, maybe Serena would ask that Mary sends free samples of her cosmetics to Wendy's sister. That could be an opening for Wendy's sieter future brainwashing, if you're planning to do this at one point in the story. Maybe this sister would be brainwashed to become extremely jealous of Wendy, because she would note that she has all the attention from Mary. It's just an idea, don't know where it could lead after that, but I suppose it opens new areas with some ease.
By the way, I don't think it's good to make an overcomplicated past for MAry, with too much psychological depht, like repressed personality, not accepting the death of Shelly, etc... In my opinion, it's much better in a mind controlling story if the people are somewhat common people who end up completly transformed. I think incestual relations are more exciting if the daughter and the mother, putting aside the seual intercourse and all the erotic things, are acting in everyday life like common people, like they are, indeed, common daughter and mother. That's why, for example, I suggest not using the "Yes my daughter" or "Yes mistress" for Erin and Madelynn. What is exciting in incest is seeing the people acting ALWAYS like daughter and mother, just as before, but with the sexual needs poisoning their thoughts abouth each other, and eventually their actions.
Don't know if I had explainded correctly what I meant, sorry for my lack of skills in English. Now, I'll patiently wait for chapter 18-2. Oh god ! Please, I want to read it this week or the next one, please... Don't let me wait too long. :(
So just out of curiosity, do you think you'll have part 2 done before or during the 4th of July weekend?
ReplyDeleteProbably not. Both part 1 and the unreleased part 2 are going to be revised then I'll rerelease it as one whole chapter, at least on my blog.
DeletePersonally, I think it would be far hotter if Wendy had to seduce her sister. Have the sister be extremely religious and conservative and Lauren insists that for her to be Wendy's Wendy must seduce her sister. Then Wendy has her sister become completely amoral - open and willing to do absolutely anything sexual.
ReplyDeleteMmmm, I'm not against Wendy having to seduce her big sister, but I think your vision of Wendy's sister is too much like the induction Madelynn is enduring, I mean a prude and conservative girl becoming a nasty slut without any limits.
ReplyDeleteI think that thre first step is to know WHO is Wendy's siter and why she isn't at home. The most realistic thing that comes to my mind is that she is a student in high college, and that she only comes at Mary's home for the holidays, or so.
I can think of two sort of brainwashing for her :
- We can imagine that she is studying chemistry. One way or another, she will have doubts about her siter's and mother's new behaviour and will investigate what could change them so much. She will eventually discover that the cosmetics are drugged, and will plan (like Madelynn at the start of the story) to know where they come from. Innocently, she could ask clues to Madelynn, who she knows is a long time friend of Wendy. But Madelynn would be ordered by Lauren to drug Wendy's siter, under the false pretext that her actions could lead Hecate to leave and hide their actions, which could bring difficultioes to track them and bring them down.
Thus, Madelynn would be given a drug and would put some of it into drinks, then offer them to Wendy's siter when she would come at her house asking advices.
This drug would be special. It would absolutely not brainwash Wendy's sister or change her behaviour. But, like a junky, Wendy's sister would become addicted to pussy's juices, moreover to Serena or Sarah juices, the only ones that would weaken the need for one day. Of course, she could always has sex with Wendy, Mary, or other girls, but it would not sooth her thirst for pussy juices to the same extent.
She would be totally aware of being controlled, but unable to resist the lust. Each day, she would need to lick some pussy or she would start to feel pain, like junkies, and her condition would start to worsen. And just like junkies, her needs would expand and expand as the time passes. Thus, Serena and Sarah would ask her orders, under thez menace of not giving her what she needs : their pussy juices. Of course, Wendy's siter would be horrified but in the end totally unable to resist. She would be like a slave, like a tool for drugging Mary and Wendy even more, but always aware of it.
And, of course, Serena and Sarah could ask of her more things if she wants what she needs : stop her studies and become a pornstar for lesbian videos on the net, start to wear revealing outfits, etc...
- My second idea : she could be studying fashion at her school in order to become a creator of new clothes. Just as in my previous scenario, she would eventually find that her mother's ans sister's new clothes are odd, and not of their usual tastes.
ReplyDeleteJust as before, she would be drugged. This time, she would be brainwashed to believe that her personal creations and tastes for clothes will be always inferior to Mary's and Wendy's new outfits. She would start to develop a inferiority complex and, each time her mother and sister would bring new clothes or cosmetics, she would feel less beautiful than them.
Thus, she would create each time more and more revealing outfits, and would start to wear more slutty makeups, each time for surpassing Mary and Wendy. Her only goal in life would be to become each time more beautiful, to the point that she would do anything for this : surgery, fake eyelashes, botoxed lips, etc...
I must say I have a big preference for my first idea. But let's not develop too much this character before she is even introduced. For the moment, we've just discovered Mary. And Erin's induction is far from being finished too. Let's wait a bit where the story will go...
Oh, and too bad the chapter 18-2 will not be ready before I move in. I guess I will have to wait more than one month now before reading it. Sad... So sad....
Do we know if the sister is older or younger?
ReplyDeleteFrom the brief times Wendy's sister was mentioned in Brainy Teen it was established that Wendy's sister is the older one. Not sure of her exact age but it's assumed she's at the age where she's attending college. Hence the reason why she is only mentioned in passing and hasn't been seen, yet.
DeleteI agree with Youpla that given that Mary, Wendy's mother, just got a proper introduction into Brainy Teen that it would be best to hold off on fully introducing Wendy's sister. However I still say work some of it into Mary and Wendy's downfall. For example Wendy's sister sends them an email and attached is a photo of her. Both Wendy and Mary feel various levels of arousal from seeing the picture, or she calls in to check up on her family and either Mary or Wendy, whoever answers the phone, starts to lust from hearing Wendy's sister's voice. Personally I think that when Wendy's sister does become fully introduced into Brainy Teen that she should already be brainwashed and under Serena's control as one of her lesbian operatives. A final tool used to push Wendy and Mary into truly becoming lesbians.
Then again with Mary's recent brainwashing she's being driven to desire, seduce, and eventually have sex with Wendy with no mention of wanting to do the same to her older daughter. So it does leave that question as to what happens when Wendy's sister does come aboard and happens to see Mary giving Wendy that "extra bit" of attention. From my interpretations it doesn't look like Wendy's jealous of her older sister, and hasn't made any mention that Mary treated one better than the other. However this could lead to Wendy's older sister noticing how odd her mother and younger sister affection with each other and from here becomes ensnared into Serena's clutches and brainwashed.
Any way just some thoughts about Wendy's sister, hope, for those that live in the States, everyone here had a great 4th of July and really can't wait for the new and improved chapter 18 to come out MM :)
I'm kind of inclined to agree with Domino_X on maybe having Wendy's sister already under Serena's control when she's introduced. Only for this reason though, we've got a lot of characters in the mix right now and I'm just concerned that it might one character too many in the story and things will get overlooked or deluded. We started out with Wendy, then Madelynn, followed by her mother and now Wendy's mom is added in. If MM wants to add in Wendy's sister and able to juggle her in the Brainy Teen series on top of the other characters then more power to him. Anyways that's just a concern of mine on adding one more character.
DeleteAgree that having too many characters appear in a story can cause plot issues. However it also depends on how that character is introduced and what affect they have on the plot. So far Wendy's sister has been briefly mentioned and what we know of her is that she's away and that she's the older sister, and that's about it. Honestly how well Wendy's sister is accepted is going to depend on the manner MM brings her in, and what's she's used for.
DeleteRobert sorry I could not proof your last chapter. For those that do not know me. I am Storm since Brainy Teen came out I have been proofing majority of Robert's stories. But, due to disasters currently happening I have been tied up since I have a non-profit Disaster Relief Agency known as Emergency Rapid Response Team. If any of you want to donate for a good cause please donate. We need more trauma bags and bottled water. ERRT is currently preparing for Hurricane Season 2013, many of the meteorologists and First Responders are preparing for a Category V.
ReplyDeleteHave a Happy 4th Weekend
No problems from me, and I don't think anyone else here has issues with you putting work and real life issues before this. Just like MM has his life matters to attend to so do you.
DeleteNice to have you back, Storm.
DeleteMM what is your email? I am happy to do some editing work for you...
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DeleteMM - email sent re: proof-reading
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Any chance we'll see part 2 to chapter 18 anytime soon?
ReplyDeleteStill working on it.
DeleteThanks for the update MasterMeat. Sorry if I sounded like I was rushing you, but your stories are good and always has me wanting more and I want to see what the rest of chapter 18 has in store for Wendy and her mother.
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I am virtued lols:) whenever MM, but can't wait, well I am waiting...
DeleteJust had an idea for Brainy Teen. For those that want to see some ink on Wendy. How about one of those temporally tats that slowly comes off, but this one comes off more slowly than normal. As is slowly ever so slowly comes off day by day Wendy becomes more and more into the thought of wanting/desiring sex with only females.
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I think the tattoo request was for Madelynn since she is becoming more and more of a lesbian goth dominatrix, but it can also apply to Wendy. Interesting idea to have the tattoo ink loaded with mind control chemicals. There are pharmaceutical medicines out there that are applied to the skin and absorbed that way. So I don't see why that concept can't be applied to tattoo ink.
DeleteTemporary tattoos is a great idea! It allows for body art without the side effects. Combining it with mind control chemicals is another good idea. I could do temporary tattoos for both Wendy and Maddy since it's not permanent. I hope people who are initially against tattoos are fine with this.
DeleteMy current ideas for long-term drug dispensing are all internal: IUD and breast implants. With slow release drugs implanted inside or outside the body (such as tattoos), the use of pills and such could be reduced.
Temporary tattoos could be a good idea. But, personally, I think it doesn't go really well with the story established so far.
DeleteIn mind control stories, the core of the erotic appeal for the reader is seeing a slow transformation of some "normal" characters into a dreamed fantasm. And this, with no mean to go back to how the character was at the beginning.
For example, Wendy is turned into a lesbian slut, right ? Thus, if at some point in the story we'd learn that it's only temporary and that Wendy becomes once more the normal girl she was at chapter one, all of her induction would have no meaning. The same goes for Madelynn, Erin, or Mary.
With temporary tattooos, it would be a bit of the same : it would not matter how nasty the tattoos would be or how they could add to the looks of Wendy/Madelynn, because the reader would know that they would disappear, and that Madelynn/Wendy are, consequently, not willing to go "all the way". It would mean their brainwashing would not be a complete thing. It's like going with a 50-50 way.
But this idea could lead to another thing : why not having, like said, temporary tattoos on the characters loaded with chemical drugs ? But, even if they are temporary, once they would disappear, Wendy/Madelynn would feel "empty", like some part of their body had gone away. In fact, they would have been so used to their temporary tattoos that they would not feel at their full beauty potential without them.
I'm not asking to do extreme body paintings. But some tattoos, either on public body locations (arms, calfs, neck...) or more private ones (nipples, pussy, ass...) could add a bit of spice. Especially, once again, concerning Madelynn. I say it again : I can't imagine a gothic dominatrix without any tattoo ! And if Wendy is ok with getting some, we can't forget that Madelynn, if she is fated to be "agressive" with her looks, will undoubtly want to go "all the way", especially more than her friend Wendy.
By the way, totally out of the subject, have you not thought of transforming a white shy and nerdy girl into a black nasty bimbo ? It could be believable with melanine injections, for example. I don't know if it's possible in Brainy Teen story. Maybe we can imagine it foe Wendy's sister, after all : she could, in fact, really be a lesbian at start. And she could come back in holidays to her mother's house with the goal of saying her homosexuality to Mary. But, being extremely shy and lacking willpower, she would not be able to find the courage to do this.
With Serena coming at home during an evening, Wendy's sister would confess her problems to her. Serena would tell her to gain inspiration from women who don't have problems exposing their bodies, speaking vulgar, or living without the social rules. She would give her a "documentary" about these women, a video that would be of course plagued with subliminal messages. This video would only present black hookers, the kind of hookers who go with somewhat "gangsta" looks.
Thus, the ultimate goal for Wendy's sister would be to change her appearance in order to forget about her shyness and finally be able to come out of the closet.
It's just an idea that popped into my head. You can use it or not, as always, if it's a good source of inspiration for you. Maybe it would be possible to include it in Silver With : a white girl turning into a black girl is kind of a magical thing, after all.
Here is a link showing this kind of transformation : http://the-pink-room.blogspot.fr/2011_12_01_archive.html
Go to the post from the 10th of December, and go up from there. Enjoy !
And now, I'll wait the next part. I do hope it will come in the next days, I can't wait !!!!
Temporary tattoos is probably the best middle of the road option that tries to satisfy both sides of argument. It's still going to leave some people unsatisfied, but it's better than alienating one side all together. Wendy and Madelynn will get tattoos, but they won't be permanent and will fade away eventually. Storywise it could work, Wendy and Madelynn are highschool seniors and some schools do have a strict dress codes and codes of conducts, and having a tattoo at their school is probably frowned upon. They can argue that it's temporary and not permanent if they caught by school teachers and staff. Maybe have the first tattoo that Wendy and Madelynn get
DeleteI don't mind a change in personality but as mentioned not a big fan of extreme body modifications,and your suggestion of having Wendy's older sister having her race changed is too drastic for my tastes and a turn off for me. Also from what I could get from your suggestion I'm not sure why Wendy's older sister would confide in a complete stranger that she has never meet before, Serena Powers, Sarah's Mom, that she's gay if she's very shy around people. If Wendy's older sister is shy as you would suggest he would probably confess to Wendy and from there Wendy could go to Sarah and have them help Wendy's older sister get over her shyness over course in during that process they turn her into a wanton lesbian sex fiend. Anyways in the end it's something for MM to mull over.
Crud, left a part out. Meant to say that maybe have the first Tattoos that Wendy and Madelynn get be some kind of secret identifying mark, like the twin Venus symbols. That way if a teacher or school administrator that is under the control or payroll of Hecate sees the tattoo they can either choose to ignore it because they know that Wendy and Madelynn or fellow converts or further push Wendy in becoming a lesbian slut and Madelynn into a lesbian dominatrix. Same goes for a student under Hecate's control. They see Madelynn with an identifying tattoo and will try to be submissive and bring out her dominatrix side and with Wendy they will try and get her to be more of a lesbian slut.
DeleteYoupla, I've checked out that blog. Most of the pictures look nice, but I'm not sure what's exactly going on in those series of pictures. Is she becoming black from the tanning bed or is it a new character? The captions don't really say much.
DeleteRegardless, melanin injections and tanning won't make anyone black. They'll just look tanned. Other physical features need to be changed, like eye color, hair texture, etc. Without those changes, the person would end up like something similar to what the Japanese are doing in their Ganguro fashion. I could add a black character, but I'm not fond of race changing. It's too extreme for my taste.
I haven't decided on what to do with Wendy's sister yet. I'm still floating with ideas suggested by other readers.
As for the tattoos causing Wendy/Madelynn to feel "empty" once they wear off, they don't have to contain standalone drugs nor do they have to act as the sole source of drugs. They could be used as a trigger or catalyst. For example, once they come into contact with certain liquids like water or saliva or another drug, they would start to have an effect. It doesn't have to be addictive nor create feelings of emptiness (Normal vs highly aroused compared to sad vs highly aroused).
mm...any updates?
ReplyDeleteIt's coming soon!
DeleteIs it soon, soon, or maybe sooooon, or could it be soonish :p
DeleteI kid, thanks for the status update MM, can't wait for the update.
Is it soon yet? :p
DeleteAlso what brought about the decision to split chapter 18 into 2 parts vs. releasing it as a very long chapter?
- Some Random Anon
I believe MM commented that his decision to split chapter 18 was based off of editorial feedback.
DeleteSorry I should have been more specific. If MM is willing to share. I'm just curious as to what parts of the plot or story flow for chapter 18 did his editor feel that he should go into greater detail or needed to be expanded.
Delete- Some Random Anon
Most of the parts where my editor felt need to be expanded involve the characters' thoughts. He goes into far greater detail than me. Besides that is adding general content.
DeleteThe decision to split the chapter was based on the feeling that it might be too long for readers in word length and waiting time. However, I've decided now to combine the revised part 1 with part 2 as one whole chapter.
MasterMeat ---> About the blog where a shy girl becomes a black bimbo, the ways used to transform her are not plainly exposed. There are tanning sessions, surgery, and drugs to make her more receptive and change her behaviour. I don't think the author gave too much credit with realism but rather created some hints to let the followers imagine how she is transformed. In any case, I don't think the process is here the most important thing. I was just giving this link to show the slow transformation of the girl, to show that it can be exciting too if it is well done.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, like you'e said, it's evidence that melanin injections and tanning can't transgform someone into a black person. But, after all, in Brainy Teen, there are many technologies that don't exist. You could imagine some machine that change the genes defining the ethnic race of a person, or some new kind of melanin injections that really transforms the skin of a subject without giving the feeling it's just tanned, or whatever.
But maybe, in fact, this fantasy would go better with Silver Witch : you can easily go with a magic spell that would transform a white girl into a black woman, after all...
Anyway, it was just an idea that popped into my head after discovering the blog. Do whatever you want with it !
About temporary tattoos, I don't think I've explained really well my point of view. What I meant in my previous comment is that brainwashing or hypnosis, in a story, finds its true meaning if the "victim" has her opinions about one thing changing. Slowly in the beginning but, at one point, of course, totally changed. There is not, I think, a "50/50" way : either the character has one of her fetish completely changed, or not at all.
If you go with temporary tattoos, I think it's a more or less clumsy way to try satisfying everyone. I think it's a too much easy way to include new fetishes in the story, without taking any risk. Then, it could be the starting point of easiness :
Someone is suggesting piercings ? Well, we'lee go with false piercings for now, and see how it goes afterwards...
Someone wants Wendy to start speaking casually with dirty words ? Well, let's make it temporary, for example by imagining Sarah making a bet with Wendy, so that she has to speak like that for a day...
Someone wants Mary to have really long polished nails ? Then let's make her wear false ones, and see in one or two chapters if it goes well with her character...
Do you see exactly what I mean here ?
Of course, we can imagine that temporary tattoos, to come back on this point, are the introduction for Wendy that will lead her to real tattoos. But I don't think you should stick all through the story with these : either you choose to fully brainwash Wendy (or any other character) on this point, or either you do nothing. Because going with the 50/50 way would make the hypnosis rather incomplete, and that doesn't go really well with the previous brainwashing Wendy had with Sarah.
I hope I did explain well my opinion. And now, can we expect the next chapter this week ? We don't have the same definition for the word "soon" ! ^^
To a certain extent I agree with Youpla that allowing Wendy and Madelynn to get only temporary tattoos can be seen as a hindrance to the brainwashing/mind control plot of Brainy Teen. However for me it's not because it shows a lack of progress in regards to Wendy's and Madelynn's mind control, but because allowing Wendy and Madelynn to only get temporary tattoos contradicts the personalities of Sarah and Serena.
ReplyDeleteTo clarify, from my personal interpretations of Sarah and especially Serena. They're pretty much very dominate and have a very clear desire and end goal of how they want their lesbian lovers/sex slaves to behave, look, and perform. Both have used their mind control tactics to mold their female targets into becoming their ideal lesbian lovers/sex slaves. For them to settle and allow Madelynn or Wendy to get only temporary tattoos contradicts the dominant personalities you've established for Sarah and Serena MM. If they manipulate Wendy and Madelynn to get temporary tattoos then permanent tattoos have to be some where down the road.
This again brings about the issues of should Wendy or Madelynn get or not get tattoos in the first place. If so what kind of tattoos should they get, how many should they get, what is the tattoo of, and so on. If not then what else can be done to show that Madelynn and Wendy have changed from their original personalities. Any ways it's something that I mulled over and thought about as I read Youpla's response to temporary tattoos. Like Youplay I'm hoping to see the chapter 18 some time this week. Laters and take care MM :)
"Because going with the 50/50 way would make the hypnosis rather incomplete, and that doesn't go really well with the previous brainwashing Wendy had with Sarah."
Delete----> I meant the same thing that you're explaining here, Domino_X. But you've developed it way better than me. If Sarah (and Serena) are doing extreme brainwashing turning Wendy into a lesbian slut, Madelynn into a dominative gothic nympho, Erin into a submissive woman having a thing for incest, and Mary into a whore whose goal is to marry her daughter, I don't think they will be so nice to only allow temporary tattoos. Or maybe if it is a way to go, at one point, with permanent ones, yes.
But you know, you can do some original tattoos without completely transform the characters into "suicide girls". There are girls who look really beautiful with a nice tattoo along their calf, or arm, or even what is called "tramp stamp". I think Wendy can have one or two without transforming into a freak. But, for what Madelynn is fated to become, I really think that, even if she doesn't have to go into "suicide girl" looks, she must at least be "a bit more" than a girl with one or two "normal tattoos".
Sorry, misunderstanding on my part. I misread and thought you were talking about how having temporary tattoos would undermine Wendy and Madelynn's brainwashing. For me it would more likely undermine Sarah and Serena's dominate personalities.
DeleteOh my, I think I must read these stories in a way to superficial manner lols. Well any which way I always love them MM and I thank you for them. I too would love a new installement this week, but I occasionally check and sometimes there is something new and I love that ty:) Otherwise whenever you can is soon enough, just keep writing! - gets into a hot bath and washes away all her temporary tattoos ;) lols x
DeleteNah, you're just reading them as intended which is enjoying the great read and having a good time :)
DeleteWhether or not the tattoos should be permanent is just a matter of taste. It's not necessary to use tattoos as symbolism to represent how much the characters have been converted or as an important tool in converting them. The most important goal for the mind controller is to have their subjects' minds changed. Everything else would follow naturally. As for the contradiction, I fail to see it. Imo, temp tattoos are better because you can maintain a consistent "fresh" look. Wearing temporary tattoos daily is functionally the same as having permanent tattoos, is it not? Regardless, permanent tattoos could be done on Madelynn, but I'm opting for temporary ones for Wendy (if any).
DeleteRegarding how the story should be read, it's entirely up to the reader. From my standpoint, it's purely for entertainment. I satisfied enough that readers enjoy the story.
Yes MM, it always your story (stories) and I have loved them so far, so remain true to what you think. Its lovely that people feel so engaged that they want to make suggestions, but I am just a reader and I await to read the next chapter when you think it is ready:) Thank you! x
DeleteTY MM for the rest of the chapter - gosh its long:) I will read it tomorrow, sorry but its 3.32am for me now and I can't see straight lols. THANK YOU THO x
DeleteFirst off just want to say Thank you MM for another great chapter. You weren't kidding when you said that the editor revisions doubled the chapter. 18 is even longer than chapter 1. Again thanks for putting out another great read and hats off to you for putting up with the "is it out yet" chatter from all of us.
ReplyDeleteI will honestly say that I enjoyed the revision of chapter 18 vs the the first half that was posted originally and I don't see myself missing the older version. One of the changes I liked was Mary not being able to take Shelly's virginity in the false lesbian past memory implant in the chapter 18 revision. It will definitely help with future manipulations of Mary into becoming a lesbian. I feel that Mary having been stopped from taking her best friend's virginity now creates this desire within Mary to try and find a way to complete that moment, fill in the void that moment of lesbian lust created, and thus will have her unknowingly search for lesbian sex, especially with younger girls and woman. This definitely sets the tone that Mary is going to be programmed differently from Erin, Madelynn's mother.
Also the additional brainwashing that was written in the scene where Mary is waiting in the foyer helped flesh out her brainwashing/mind control and gives what is happening to her a better pace in the revision. For me it definitely feels like Serena is laying down the foundation to transform Mary into a deviant lesbian sex slave.
In regards to suggestions, it was already posted in earlier comments to have Mary desire younger woman and girls, and the complete chapter 18 seems to imply this. If that's the case for Mary I suggest that aside from having Mary trying to hang out with and seduce Wendy's friends don't forget to have Mary buy teen magazines to lust after the models in them, or when she and Wendy have a bonding moment together such as watching a teen movie or tv show and have her be attracted to the actresses portraying teen girls.
I think the only thing that disappointed me was the lack of Madelynn and her mother, but hopefully we'll see them in chapter 19. Then I know that Wendy's visit to the lesbian strip club is also coming up too. I have a feeling she might be taking a more active role when she visits that club.
Any way can't wait for the next chapter update to Brainy Teen. I do know that Silver Witch is next on the update list, but that's been a good read so it's win-win. Take care MM and thanks again for putting out another great work.
Yay! New Brainy Teen chapter is up :D
ReplyDeleteI know, I know that it was posted a few days back but still great to see a new chapter.
Pretty much liked and hope to see more later on. If what Domino_X said is true about Silver Witch getting the next update. Then I guess I'll have to wait longer for the next update Brainy Teen. Sorry Mastermeat don't take it the wrong way but I tried to get into Silver Witch but really couldn't and prefer Brainy Teen over Silver Witch.
Anyway loved the chapter, loved Mary's brain washing, look out girls there's a sexy cougar on the prowl for some lesbian love *Rowr*
I think the only question I have is on Wendy's Brainwashing in this chapter. Some parts seem to imply that Wendy might relapse to her old hetero desires or is still heavily resisting. Don't you think that with all the times she's been under Sarah's mind control maybe it's time that Wendy should behave more and more like a lesbian vs. having Sarah or her agents constantly telling or reminding her that she's a lesbian? I know you're going for the slow method of mind control but I think it's some shoddy mind control if I have to go up and constantly remind someone that they're being mind controlled. If I were Sarah or her mother I'd probably demand a refund on the mind control equipment they got :p
Any way it's still a very great chapter and I really do appreciate it that you took time to work on it and post it. Sorry if my question bugs you I don't mean anything negative with it. Any way take care and can't wait for the next chapter to Brainy Teen.
- Some Random Anon
I'm glad you guys enjoyed the latest chapter of BT. My current editor, DB, contributed a lot of content in this chapter so you can thank him too.
ReplyDeleteSome Random Anon, I understand and I don't mind you and some people not liking Silver Witch. I'm not offended in anyway by that fact. But, since you mentioned it, I'm curious as to why you couldn't get into it. Too coercive? Too squicky? Unbelievable setting? Fantasy not your taste?
Regarding Wendy's mind control, I think it could be described with an analogy: Slow growing trees tend to be stronger and longer lasting while fast growing trees are weaker and have lesser lifespans. Though that concept isn't the real reason I'm doing slow mind control, it makes Sarah's actions logical.
In regards to me not getting into Silver Witch. The one thing I want to make clear is that it's not your writing style. I'm just not really a fan of the magic and fantasy genre. Not sure what it is but magic and hocus pocus just doesn't interest me.
DeleteYour analogy is good and I guess from the viewpoint of Sarah's character it would make sense to go slow and steady and not rush things which tends to lead to undesired results. It's just that I think by now some of the basic stuff should have taken a firm hold of Wendy's mind. I just feel that if I were to go to Wendy right now and ask her to describe her soulmate or person she would want to spend her life with it. Right off the bat Wendy should start to describe a female vs. leading off with Daniel, hesitation, reminding herself that's she's a lesbian and then describing a female.
I can understand Wendy needing a push and conditioning for things that might not be in a traditional monogamous relationship like lesbian threesomes, being a slut around woman, incest, and S&M. I'm hoping I'm making sense in trying to get my point across and not coming off as psycho.
I do thank you for your response, and again also thank you for taking time to craft a great story for us to read.
- Some Random Anon
Here's my take Some Random Anon if you want to entertain the idea. One way to look at Wendy's slow brainwashing/conditioning towards living a hedonistic lesbian sex lifestyle is that when Wendy started out she really had no or very little experience when it comes to trying to get another boy interested in her or asking a boy out.
DeleteIf you recall from the very early chapters Wendy wasn't in a relationship and was wanting to get into one with Daniel. At best the only thing Wendy probably had for source material for getting dates and starting a relationship was from her mom and dad, possibly viewing and asking her older sister, seeing other girls ask and being asked out at her school and whatever she saw on TV, read in magazines, and on the internet. So essentially she lacks personal details to fill in when it comes to relationships.
To borrow a line from the movie Inception the human mind is capable of tracing the origins of an idea. If Wendy told herself that she's a lesbian or believed that she was one and wanted to go out with Lauren then there's probably going to be a part of her mind that's asking why, when did this happen, or what caused this and will try and figure things out. It wants details to fill in the gaps that the questions would create. If things don't jive then the mind could sense something is out of place and find out that a foreign influence is trying to take control and reject it.
Sarah's slow mind control process would fill in gap, guide Wendy towards a hedonistic lesbian lifestyle and make Wendy believe that she came to the decision by herself, and not something that was planted inside her head.
Any way it's just my personal take, it's not what MM uses but how I view the slow process.
I, on the other hand, find Silver Witch more interesting (more space to maneuver in, because of the brainwashing being magical)
DeleteHaven't watched the movie Inception, but I understand what you mean, Domino_X. Some people do question their own thoughts and actions. In the story, it's implied that mind control process isn't perfect. It doesn't overwhelm and completely overwrite the person's mind. Therefore, a portion of the original personality intact. That provides for the possibility of internal conflict within the person's mind.
DeleteI liked it, but omg it was so very very long:) ty MM. Can't c the wood 4 the trees lols. I like Silver Witch too so await that with a patient smile:)
ReplyDeleteHi MasterMeat !
ReplyDeleteWhat to say here ? I really, really loved this chapter. For the first time since long ago, I must say I really don't have anything to say. All was nearly perfect.
Here what I really loved :
- I loved the revisions on the "first part", in particular the new events showing Mary's brainwashing through the phrases and words she hears at the house. Previously, I thought (and I said it to you) that all was too much centered on Kayla with Wendy but, now, we clearly have Mary and her daughter as the new "couple" being the center of attention. That's great !
- I find the brainwashing that Mary suffers really well developed. It's nice to "hear" what the induction is, and to see to what degreee it influences her next actions and thoughts. I particularly loves the fact that the hypnosis is heavily insisting on the red colour, on the need that Mary will have to dress herself with red clothes, to wear red makeup (and I really love the fact that you insist on the high heaviness of this makeup with "layers and layers of lipstick", all the time, the same for her nails...), and to use red sextoys. Like I said, it's a totally uncommon fetish, and an exciting one ! Can't wait to see her taint her hair in red and, why not, choose to implant herself freckles on her cheeks to look like a natural red hair person (I know that these "false freckles" exist).
- Like Domino_X said, I also love the fact that the sex intercourse between Mary and Shelly didn't occur. Thus, Mary will have a gap in her heart, a need to complete this moment with Wendy.
- Once again, I love the wedding event, moreover when we read what Mary is thinking. Her thought going like "Is it possible ? I really didn't think of this seriously but, yes, it would be wonderful" shows her slow degradation. I really love that scene. What I hope and suggest is that the wedding would be ALWAYS here in Mary's thoughts, like a plague, but each time nastier than ever, and each time being a stronger need for Mary. About this, the Wedding event at the end of this chapter, with Wendy, was a great show of nastiness. I hope that Mary will have this sort of brainwashing soon, and even stronger ones, with details about the wedding becoming even nastier and nastier.
- The event with Wendy seducing Kayla was just like it had to be. It's first time that Wendy is clearly doing the first step, and going too far with it would have ruined the atmosphere. Now that she has been the seductress for the first time, she can begin to like this and go each time a bit further (the next time, maybe she will not just kiss the girl she seduces but also lick her ear or say some sexual words ?)
- Even if there are Sarah and Serena in this chapter, I think you realized that the main point here was Mary and Wendy's brainwashing and their new born love for each other. It's great that you didn't try to add too much events with Serena and Sarah, or else this chapter would have gone in too much directions.
- As always, your writing style is brilliant, especially when you describe clothes, makeup, and character's thoughts. continue this way !
ReplyDelete- Lastly, I will say I have enoyed such a long chapter ! It's been such a long time since we read so much, and the longer the better !
Well. A fisrt on, eh ? No bad things I say about a chapter, for once ! Well, not really, just a tiny thing though :
- The trasition between Mary's induction and Wendy's event was too abrupt. Doing a sort of quick conclusion about Mary's brainwashing would have been, maybe, wisier for the reader. I'm talking about this passage in case you don't know what I'm talking about :
"One more machine awaited Mary. After that machine was done with her, Mary would have many restless nights due to the erotic Sapphic dreams she would have. Even her day dreams would be affected. Whenever Mary would sleep or nap, and many times when she would just mentally drift for a second, erotic dreams and visions would follow.
Music played from underwater speakers. Wendy could feel the strong bass beats in the form of bodily vibrations. There were also subliminals hidden in the music that Wendy wasn't aware of."
- Once again, I am a bit disappointed to have a chapter without Erin and Madelynn. Bit, really, I think going with too much characters on this chapter would have waste it : by doing so, you clearly had all the way to show in details Mary's and Wendy's induction. Bravo !
No, as always, some suggestions or ideas :
- By reading you, I'm pretty sure that you love describing clothes for the characters. And, by comparing Mary's brainwashing with Erin's, I think that the second one lacks of something... I mean, Mary's induction is long, greatly detailed, whereas the scens with erin are a bit short.
My first advice is to do something for Erin and MAdelynn like you did for Mary and Wendy : a long chapter, or something like this.
My second advice : every character seems to be brainwashed in wearing some kind of clothes : slutty wardrobe for Wendy, latex/dominatrix clothes for Madelynn, and red sexy clothes (and even the wedding dress, it's a fetish too !) for Mary. So, why not adding for Erin a fetish toward some kind of clothes ? I can suggest some outfits :
- Trashy prostitute : fishnet stockings, daisy dukes shorts with leopard pattern, platinum blond hair, lot and lot of blush, flashy blue mascara and eyeshadow, ripped tank top again with leopard pattern, cheap jewelry, red lipstick with dark lip liner... A perfect cheap prostitute outfit, in fact ! It could go well with the upcoming need Erin will have to degrade herself in front of her daughter. Thus, Madelynn could give her the order to be "her" submissive whore, hence these clothes.
ReplyDelete- Taste for uniforms ; Erin could go with a fetish for some uniforms like nurse, maid, police woman, schoolgirl, and of course nun. This one would give her the most exciting thoughts, since it's the most degradating thing for her considering her religious life.
- Latex catsuits or plastic suits : being her daughter's slave, who is a dominatrix, it would be logical that Erin wears these. I don't think it's much exciting, though, and these clothes are too much like what Madelynn is wearing sometimes.
- In fact, if we think about it, the only intercourse between Mary and Wendy in this chapter was them holding hands. All of the nastier event were only in the brainwashing, dreams, and was not "real". I really loved this and understand that it must not go too fast. But I suggest that you don't rely too much on this. After all, what is the most exciting is too see, in the real world, what the characters are indeed doing after thier inductions. I loved when you described Mary's new fondness for her daughter, in particular her "heart beating faster", or "her eyes drifting unconsciously to Wendy's eyes". It's really well done because these are the first steps when someone falls in love with another. So, continue on this way with Mary becoming more shy and awkward each day in front of Wendy, with her asking Madelynn what kind of things she loves for a present, with her watching Wendy' eyes with a big smile sometimes, etc etc... A sort of romance, but always with some perversion behind (after all, this is an erotic story !).
Well, that's all I have to say about this chapter. I must say that I am like a child because, as soon as this chapter ended, I wanted a new one ! I know it's long but please, don't make us wait too much !!
Oh, I wanted to say some things about Silver Witch : like I've said before, your style is not the cause for me not liking the story as much as Brainy Teen. Like I said, it's the lack of fantasy , whereas the magical setup could permits all kind of "impossible" fetishes in a real world.
If I have one advice to give you about Silver With : go wild with it ! Go beyond the limits, imagine everything and don't be stuck on formal and common sapphic relationships :
You can imagine a girl being so strongly brainwashed to believe she is a cat that her body will believe it too and start to transform into a furry catgirl.
You can imagine that a shy girl wants to have a "big" sister that would help her, and an evil twin version of herself materializes and fuck with her.
You can imagine some age regression, with a strict mother turning into a 14 years old teenager.
You can imagine a girl who has a curse : each day, she must frenchkiss with another girl or, at evening, she would turn forever into a total nymphomaniac with no bounds. Problem is that each kirl she kisses becomes a lesbian.
And so on.... So much possibilities with your original setup, so don't waste it !
One post agin to ask you some "out of the subject" questions :
ReplyDelete- Brainy Teen seems to be on the way to be a really long story. There are really many characters. Mary's brainwashing has just begun, Erin is more or less at the same point, the whole plot is clouded in darkness, some fetishes have not been introduced... I know that each chapter is a lot of work for you and I fear that, in the future, you will lose your motivation. Could you please reassure me and say that you will not drop your story, like many authors do on the net ?
- After Brainy Teen and Silver Witch, do you plan to write another story ?
- From your point of view, what is the character you prefer in Brainy Teen ?
Nearly perfect, lol! I never expected my writing to be anywhere close to that. Again, my editor contributed a lot of content and some readers provided suggestions and corrections. The chapter became a lot better because their effort. Otherwise this chapter would've been different.
DeleteThe abrupt transition can be fixed in a revision. Erin's initial brainwashing, which I didn't write about, would be included in detail in the next chapter as a flashback. Additional brainwashing for Madelynn on par with Wendy's in this chapter could be done in the next chapter too.
Haven't really thought about Erin's style or fetish yet. I'm considering the fetishtic outfits (nurse, nun, etc.) you suggested, but I would also like to add something else. How about a strong taste for mannequins, dolls, and machines/robots?
I understand in magical setting many possiblities could be opened up, but I don't want to do too much just yet. It's would get too messy. Each new fetish (e.g., like catgirls, evil twin sisters) would require a new character with their own individual story.
Regarding your questions:
I definitely won't drop this story because I love writing it. My motivation comes from the enjoyment of writing out my fantasies. There would more stories after BT and SW. So many scenarios to explore! There's no particular character I prefer strongly since I divided the attributes and traits I like amongst multiple characters, but I'm more inclined towards Wendy. She's the main character.
Ok, thanks for having answered this to me.
DeleteJust a thing about mannequins, dolls, and robots... Eeeer, to be frank : NO ! ^^
Sorry, but I don't find this really appealing. I prefer to imagine Erin developing a taste for sapphic relations with "real" person. Plus, I think that perverting some religious aspects of Erin's life would be more exciting and befitting for this character. For example, she had deep respect for god and the religion during all of her life. Why not creating an Erin who can't stop to fantasize about some things that are blasphemy toward the religion ? It's much more exciting to imagine the strict and conservative Erin this way :
- She could masturbate in front of her mirror with a nun outfit ; then, because she would think it's not sexy enough, she could command on Internet a "sexy nun" costume, in latex.
- She could do the same thing with her bride dress (that she would have keep, of course). In fact, she could develop a taste for brides to be and imagine them in totally blasphemous actions.
- She could develop a strong taste for altar girls being 13-14 years old. And the more prude a girl would be, the more twisted her fantaisies would become.
- She could want to prostitute herself (for women only, of course), just for the thrill of this forbidden act that is going against god's teachings.
Etc....
No, really, dolls and robot are, I think, not for Erin.
I could never understand the robot fetish. Out of everything, I enjoy reading about how the character feels. If one removes feelings, then one gets a robot that doesn't feel anything and is about as exciting to read about as a vibrator. That is not to say that you shouldn't write out your fantasies MM, just be mindful that not everyone 'gets it', and you might want to concentrate a bit more than usual on colorfully describing the allure of the fantasy.
DeleteI kind of like the idea of Erin having an outfit fetish. If you're to entertain the idea. The way I see it Erin before falling under Sarah's control probably had a set rigid pattern she always followed when it came to the clothing she wore. After falling under Sarah's manipulations she her conservative style has been replaced with a desire to throw her conservative fashion style to the wind and try various outfits in public.
DeleteFor example instead of wearing a blouse and khakis at work on Mondays now she wears a sexy secretary outfit that one would see in porn movies. At home she would put on a sexy french maid outfit. Also to try and satisfy this desire Erin could start looking for ways to wear fetish costume outfits in public. Maybe either have Madelynn, Elena, or Sarah refer Erin to a fetish club. Of course at first Erin is unaware that it's a fetish club. They can tell her that that it's an indie female actors group putting on costumes for various small plays when in reality it's a group where women put on fetish costumes and act out lesbian porn fantasies.
Not sure on Erin having the robot/mannequins/dolls fetish. Is Erin wanting to become one? I guess I can kind of see it. With her heavy religious leanings it could imply that Erin is always looking for control in her life. Essentially someone telling her what to do with herself. So now under Sarah's control she wants to become a living doll/robot because it would key in to her desire to follow orders, and of course it would involve her wearing fetish costumes to proudly show off how good of a follower she can be.
Any hope you're doing well MM and can't wait for the Silver Witch update. Take care and hope to see it soon.
Good gravy I really should proofread my replies before clicking the button. Meant to say Any WAY I hope you're doing well MM and can't wait for the Silver Witch update. Take care and hope to see it soon.
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DeleteJust like me... every day :)
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ReplyDeleteMaybe we'll see the Silver Witch update during the Halloween week.
ReplyDeleteHey hums MM any comments would be loved. No pressure, just so I know you are "in-progress" lols:)
ReplyDeleteChapter 10 of SW is in progress. Currently have written about 6500 words for it.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the Silver Witch chapter update MM. The concept that interests me with Silver Witch is how the mind control works in Silver Witch. For me in Silver Witch the more and more Emma uses the magic taught to her by Galatea the more her mind is being altered into a becoming a lesbian and she succumbs to Galatea's will. Also there's Candice who maybe seduced by the allure of power that Galatea could offer her. Where in Brainy Teen the mind control is primarily initiated by drugs, psychological tactics and technology. Any way thanks for the update and can't wait to see it and don't feel rushed to put it.
ReplyDeleteTY 4 the update, I will get new batteries in:) lols x
ReplyDeleteI'm glad to have some news from you, MasterMeat. You know, even if I don't leave comments very often, I still check every day your blog to see if there are some new comments or, better, chapters. ^^
ReplyDeleteI'd like to answer the last suggestion from Domino_X. from my point of view, having Erin develop a fetish for certain clothes or outfits is a really great idea. but that doesn't mean we can't bring it abruptly, without some consideration about the character.
I don't see why Erin would want to wtart wearing sexy secretary outfit at work, or a french maid costume at home, like that, without a bit of depth. Moreover, I don't see (for now, at least), why she would want to start wearing some things that "she would have seen in porn movies". Don't forget : Erin is a totally prude character, strict, conservative. even if she's brainwashed, I can't for now imagine her wanting to throw away all her inhibitions and beliefs without a second thought, without struggling.
Each character, in Brainy Teen story, is brainwashed toward a specific fetish :
- Wendy will become a slut who love to wears sexy clothes and seduce every girls and women.
- Madelynn undergoes a "gothification". She will be a total nasty bitch, without any morals nore limits, vulgar, perverse, loving only crude sex and despising love. Piercings, tattoos, latex clothes, and crude speaking will be her everyday life.
- Mary will become totally in love with Wendy and, to a second degree, have things for teen girls. Fashion speaking, shhe will be obsessed with red clothes, extreme and heavy makeup, and bridal dresses.
- And finally Erin will be turned on by depravation, submission, and maybe blasphemous acts.
But all of this, for the moment, has been developed with a progressive pace and, above all, with a logic. A twisted logic sometimes (due to the brainwashing), but something in which the characters are believing :
- Wendy wants to become a lesbian slut for conquering Daniel (replaced later with Lauren), because she thinks that it's her true nature, and because she would find that being a slut is not a bad thing, moreover something more or less "normal".
- Madelynn wants to save Wendy at first from Sarah's hands. But then, she is blackmailed by Elena. She then starts to develop a taste for a nastier way of life, and starts to love dominance and power. Above all, she is starting to refuse orders from anyone, like her mother. And because she wants to be the "mistress" in charge, she is slowly diving into a more "agressive" fashion style. Her goal is to conquer Wendy again, to be in charge, to be always "more than Wendy". That explains some of her new gothic nature : she wants to be above the commoners, to be seen as THE gothic slut who will take command.
- Mary wants to have some free time with her daughter Wendy. At first because she's worried about her new looks, then because she wants to have some mother/daughter free time only for the pleasure, then because she feels that she's starting to fall in love with her. She would start to feel unattractive enough and would want to "do honor" to her daughter beauty, and try herself some new things, to be a beautiful wife. Her choice of red clothing and heavy makeup is a way to expose herself, to try to gain Wendy's interest. She wants to be seen, and for that she has to go extreme on her looks.
ReplyDelete- ........ and then, we have Erin. Do you see the problem with your suggestion ? I don't see why Erin, even if she starts to develop submissive fetish and a need for depravation, would want so quickly to wear sexy outfits without a logic behind this. Maybe if Madelynn, one day, orders her to do so, but Madelynn becoming Erin's mistress is not gonna happen before some times, I think. Before that, I think MasterMeat has to "construct" the logic that would guide Erin's new behaviour, new fashion style, and new tastes.
---> Why Erin would want to obey her daughter ?
---> Why Erin would want to do depravated things ?
---> Why would she go against her religious beliefs ?
etc etc...
I've suggested before that, why not, Erin could develop a taste for costumes. But why ? that's the big question. The other would be how could she be persuaded to do the act, to really wear (to quote your suggestion) a french maid costume at home ?
Secondly, I think that Erin wearing a sexy secratary outfit at work is not really exciting. It's common, really. She would start to wear it, and then ? I think that, like every mind control erotic story, it's more exciting to make a character do things that he would REALLY despise if he was in his normal state. For Erin, I think we have to find the inspiration in what we know of her :
- She is prude
- She is conservative
- She places religion above everything
- She despises sex, and more than all sexual intercourse that don't follow god's teaching. Yes, that means she really hates homosexuality, and that she hates even more incestual relationships. There is absolutly no way she could think of doing this at least a tiny second !
So.... It's obvious : having Erin acting to do what she is not meant to do is the wisiest way to make some exciting events, and to see with pleasure how she could be brainwashed to do so.
If we follow this logic, we can imagine that, at the end of her brainwashing, Erin will be a woman who, for example :
ReplyDelete- love to do nasty things in nun outfit
- love to do something as sinful as incest
- love something as blasphemous as sapphic relationships
- love to prostitute herself
Why would she loves all all this ? That is the most difficult part to construct, and I think that MasterMeat is here the only one who could decide which way the character will take.
Maybe she would start to feel a taste for submission because the brainwashing could insist that her need for religion is, in fact, a need that she always had to be told what she has to do. But God isn't here, while her daughter Madelynn is ; then she would start to feel the need to be given orders by a more "concrete" person.
Maybe she would start to feel a need to do blasphemous things because God never responded to her prayers. Blasphemy would be a way to express her anger.
Maybe she would want to go into depravation because she would start to feel that she is a good-for-nothing : her husband betrayed her, her daughter is not listening to her, her life is empty, etc... She would want to be treated like a trash for this reason, becasue she would think that she doesn't merit to be seen as someone who is worthy of respect.
etc etc...
Those are just some ideas, but I think they are following some logic, and that they could be believable when we analyse the character of Erin.
Anyway, let's bring another subject. Some questions for MasterMeat :
ReplyDelete1) Have you already started to think about Wendy's sister character ? And mostly of what she could become ?
I, for myself, don't see really well what you could do with her. She has to develop a fetish who is not already in the story, and the same would go for her fashion style. The big problem is that, as soon as she will go back to Mary's home, she will start to notice all the changes. Mary is just beginning to be brainwashed so, maybe, she will not start to act like a slut and wear red slutty clothes and makeup at first ; so that could pass. But Wendy has already a slut attitude. So, unless Wendy's sister is an idiot, she will be on her guards. Moreover if she starts to see her mother flirting with Wendy ! And if we are to see, in the finals, the wedding between Mary and Wendy, of course you'll have to find something with her sister...
So, what are you planning to do with her ?
For the new fetishes that could be introduced, there are not many of them left. Some extreme, of course, could be imagined but since you clearly said that some things like Bestiality or Ethnic Modification will not make their way into the story, I can't really find new ideas.
Maybe this one, after all :
- She could develop extreme jealousy for the new attention that Wendy would get from Mary, and have some "big sister complex". She would believe that Wendy is loved because she looks younger. Then she would start to act like a total pre-teenager, a lolita, to gain her mom's interest. Ingenuity, lolita's clothes, and why not some breasts reduction ? She could be convinced by a Sarah/a pub on the net/whatever to try some hypnosis that would drop her IQ and make her act, in fact, like a real 12-13 years old daughter in front of her mother, but extremely curious about sex. Of course, Wendy and Mary would be brainwashed too so that she would not find her behaviour so strange.
.... yeah, really, I don't have many ideas for Wendy's sister. Maybe when you'll introduce her in the story, who knows ?
2) Because I had already bring this idea for Erin, do you plan on doing some events with pre-teens, like a 12-14 years altar-girl, a schoolgirl from a catholic school, or whatever else ? I know it's an extreme thing, but this is only fantasy after all. I don't know, however, if it could bring problems...
3) I know it's been a sensitive subject before, but do you plan to do something with Madelynn's previous action when she was drinking piss with her orange juice ? Even if you choose to abandon this fetish, I think this event needs some explanation in a future chapter.
4) Do you have another ideas for fetishes that I've not mentioned, and that will (or would) make their way into Brainy Teen ?
I know you've mentioned robots, but I think it's best you keep this idea for a story who introduce Sc-Fi or fantasy elements.
5) Am I not annoying you with all my questions ? :D
6) The ultra-extreme-uncommon question : do you have an estimation for the next chapter of Brainy Teen ?? :) :) :)
See you soon everyone. It's good to have a place to discuss about this amazing story.
Oh, and I've thought of something. To kill the time, between each chapter, why don't we provide some links showing a picture of how we personally imagine some of the characters of the story ?
- For example, here is how I could imagine Madelynn at the present time, more or less :
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/608818609/?pgid=&gid=4345564&page=0
- And Mary in a really near future :
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/501067967/?pgid=&gid=4318159&page=0
or :
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1553077986/?pgid=&gid=3760867&page=0
Let's all find how we imagine Wendy, Mary, Maddy, and the others !! Do not hesitate to post multiple pictures if you feel the need. ;)
Youpla, interesting interpretations on the characters of the story as usual. I haven't really developed Erin's character so many things about her is open to speculation at this point. I was thinking about making Erin do blasphemous acts too, but her attitude towards these acts would be different. If she starts doing blasphemous acts, even the first act that's blasphemous would mean she's making an abrupt change. It doesn't take that many blasphemous acts to ruin one's reputation in their religion. Since you're suggesting Erin start doing these acts in anger because she thought God wasn't giving her attention, it would imply she doesn't mind making her blasphemous acts known because when you really hate the God of your religion, you pretty much don't care about other people viewing you as blasphemer. That would make Erin's change of personality and attitude too abrupt.
DeleteWhat I was thinking is making Erin commit blasphemous acts without making her think that it's a rebellion against her religion. If Erin thinks that she's doing it for some noble cause, that would allow for a slower change. She would feel shame for her activities and new feelings. I think the internal struggle would be more interesting when it's done like this.
Here's how it basically goes:
-Madelynn does more and more blasphemous things and gets more rebellious against her mom
-Erin wants to protect her daughter and "save" her from damnation
-Because of brainwashing and subliminal suggestions, Erin comes with bizzare plan to let herself be the focus of her daughter's lust, hate, domination, etc. so that she won't seek relief of those desires from elsewhere
-Because Erin is Madelynn's mother and she's Christian, Erin sees herself being on higher moral ground than the "deviants" that her daughter encounters and also sees herself being uncorruptible, therefore any act they do together would be less sinful compared to the acts Madelynn does with non-Christians
-Erin wants to slowly convert Madelynn back into the "right path" in a similar manner
-In the process, it's Erin who slowly gets corrupted herself and she fails to save her daughter
>1) Have you already started to think about Wendy's sister character ? And mostly of what she could become ?
Haven't thought about Wendy's sister yet. The only ideas I have of her right now is that she's in college, more mature than Wendy, and more sociable compared to her sister since they last encountered each other face-to-face.
IQ reduction is a turn-off for me. It would introduce problems like friends and relatives wondering why Wendy's sister suddenly became dumb. Have to think about the lolita fetish. I like the jealousy idea though.
There should be a lot more fetishes besides extremes like bestiality and ethnic modification. How about plant fetish, leather fetish, perfume fetish, or a specific lifestyle fetish? There should be a lot more. Almost everything could be fetishsized.
>2) Because I had already bring this idea for Erin, do you plan on doing some events with pre-teens, like a 12-14 years altar-girl, a schoolgirl from a catholic school, or whatever else ? I know it's an extreme thing, but this is only fantasy after all. I don't know, however, if it could bring problems...
DeleteThis would be included. I don't think that's extreme as bestiality though.
>3) I know it's been a sensitive subject before, but do you plan to do something with Madelynn's previous action when she was drinking piss with her orange juice ? Even if you choose to abandon this fetish, I think this event needs some explanation in a future chapter.
I dont think it needs an explanation. It would be reopening old wounds. However, a logical explanation would be that Madelynn loves Wendy so much that she thinks every part of her is loveable. There are people who sniff farts of their girlfriends, watch them poop, etc. Drinking piss isn't as bad as those activities IMO especially when the piss is diluted. When piss is diluted with something with a strong taste like orange juice, the piss could be unnoticeable.
>4) Do you have another ideas for fetishes that I've not mentioned, and that will (or would) make their way into Brainy Teen ?
I know you've mentioned robots, but I think it's best you keep this idea for a story who introduce Sc-Fi or fantasy elements.
Robots aren't really a sci-fi/fantasy thing, especially when you go with today's technology. I've also mentioned machines, which robotics is a subcategory of. Machines are fetishsized by many people. Many advertisers like to associate sex with cars. No doubt cars are being sexualized. Here's a music video that illustrates this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY-l1OL27n0
ideas for other fetishes: metals, flowers, butterflies, specific shapes/patterns/numbers/sounds, electricity/electronics, oil, water, fire/heat, ice/cold, vibration/rotation
>5) Am I not annoying you with all my questions ? :D
No, I'm more than happy to answer these kinds of questions.
>6) The ultra-extreme-uncommon question : do you have an estimation for the next chapter of Brainy Teen ?? :) :) :)
Probably one or two chapters before the end of this year.
>- And Mary in a really near future :
>http://www.imagefap.com/photo/501067967/?pgid=&gid=4318159&page=0
This photo is the hottest one out of the three you've linked. Even the lamp shades are red, lol.
hmms oh dear
ReplyDeleteWhat is it ?
DeleteStill working on it. Youpla, I'll write a response to your lengthy posts later.
DeleteThank you for your very detailed answer. Hera are some of mine, again, to the things you've said :
ReplyDelete1 and 2) : Yes, as strange as it could seem after what I've said, I don't find IQ loss much appealing too... It was more or less a mean to explain how Wendy's sister could become a innocent lolita.
In fact, the more I think about it, the more I think that if Wendy had a little sister instead of a big, all of this would be much more simple.
Yes, we can imagine that if Wendy had a 12-13 years old sister, you could kill two birds with one stone :
- First, you would have a really easy way to introduce a preteen in the story. Big sister can be good, alright but after all she is, when it comes to sex, someone as "normal" as Wendy and Mary before their induction. With a preteen girl, you have a young girl who seemingly know nothing or just a bit about sexuality, and who had no concrete experience yet.
- Being the "innocent" young girl, she could easily fill the"lolita" role in the story. And moreover, she could be brainwashed by Sarah without twisting her IQ. it could a brainwashing that lets her be extremely curious about sexuality, and be extremely receptive to what her mother tells her about this. Thus Mary would progressively tells her that incest is right, that boys are not to be trusted, that if she wants to be really happy she has to be with a girl, that she has to find her own fashion style and exagerate it in order to be above the common other girls, etc...
- She could even be brainwashed to be sad and then angry about her father being always away from home. Because she is still young, she would feel the need to have two parents at home and then it would strike her : why couldn't she have two mommies ? She would say this to Mary : "Mom, why don't you marry Wendy ? You seem to love each other, and I'll have two moms !" Mary, being not fully brainwashed, would lightly object but she will know that she has her youngest daughtr's permission. And that would destroy a bit more her reluctance about an incestual wedding.
Plus, Wendy's sister could set up some little tricks to achieve her dream of having two moms. Maybe with a bit of exterior help (Sarah or Serena ?), she would let a book picturing milf in wedding dress in Wendy's room. Or encurage her mother to try red makeup. Or playing the role of Wendy in front of Mary, if Mary wants to train herself to make her love declaration. Etc etc...
She could even be introduced to Madelynn who would think of a way to convince Erin to make love with her, a young preteen ( a really sinful act, indeed).
Yes, I think it would be easier to imagine a younger sister. It would mean that you would have some editing to do but you speak so few of Wendy's sister in the whole story that it would not be so difficult.
But here I am, seemingly pushing you to do a major change ! maybe you have some great ideas for the future with a big sister. But I am just stating the point that, if you don't want to struggle with this new character to introduce her in the story and if you don't want to struggle to much with the introduction of a preteen lolita, this could be a way. It's up to you.
The only thing that would bother me about making Wendy's sister the younger one and Wendy the older one. Would be this nagging question of "Where has she been all this time and what has she been up to?" Surely she must have been living in the same house as Wendy and her mother, if not then with who was she staying? Was she living else where? If so why? What would cause Wendy's parents to send their youngest child away while the older one stayed home? I think this is going to be a problem when Wendy's sister gets introduced into the series. If Wendy's sister is the youngest readers like me will want details to fill in the blanks on why she hasn't been seen in previous chapters and where's she has been all this time. The "Wendy having an older sister" scenario works because it can offer a bit more plausible explanation on why she hasn't been seen or heard from. Old Sister is away because she's either in college, at a job in another city, studying abroad, and what have you.
DeleteAny it is MM's story and it's really up to him on how he wants to tackle Wendy's sister. One piece of advise I would like to give is maybe start to lay some of the ground work in future chapters. Don't have to fully introduce Wendy's sister but make her presence known. It's food for thought.
3) Ok if you don't want to talk about the piss swallowing event. i just find odd that Madelynn, bashful at fist, decided to do such an act without, at least, show some hesitation.
ReplyDelete4) I know, there are some robots in real world that almost look like humans. But that's not the problem. Like someone else said here, intercourse with a totally non-emotional "person" is not really exciting. Having some affair with a robot is, for me, using a sex toy. It's not really different, in the process, than using a dildo.... And I would find odd that, in the story, someone would start to have some feeling for... a machine. Too much odd, in fact. Like I've said, I imagine robots in a Sc-Fi context rather than in Brainy Teen.
About the other fetishes : flowers, metal, butterflies, perfume, etc... this could be interesting, but I think these are too specifics. I can't imagine many declinaisons of events with just a flower fantasy, or a perfume.
A good exemple is the latex fetish with Madelynn character : she IS loving latex, but you clearly see that it can't bring a lot of events. You had to add gothic theme with her, and domination, and a taste for perversity and vulgarity, etc.. With only a perfume fetish, eeeeeer I don't know what you could add with it. That's the same for the leather fetish you've mentioned : having only this fetish is not enough to bring a lot of situations ; but having it as a part of a character new behaviour is much more interesting. If a girl is brainwashed to love leather, then you could imagine that it's a part of a new personnality. Who loves leather ? Maybe a cougar, a stripper, or a prostitute. Or why not the 3 at the same time ? Don't think only of a concrete fetish, but rather think of a new personnality for a character before thinking of the fetishes in which this personnality would reflect. I Hope I am understood, it's not really easy to explain...
Lastly, I find your idea of Erin's corruption appealing. It might even explain why Erin would start, at one point, to wear costumes like a nun or a bride. She would hope that Madelynn would react in fucking her mother in these "holy" clothes, and start to regain her personnality.Of course that would fail.
We can even imagine Madelynn would know, at one point, of her mother's plot. She would be extremely angry to see that her mother is, again and again, trying to "control her", to transform her into her old self. That's why she would ask some special tailor (introduced by Elena, of course) to modify these holy clothes into nasty outfits. Erin would be blindfolded by Maddy with the false pretext of a nasty little game, and be asked to slip into these clothes. Erin would still believe it would be her old outfits, and then Madelynn would drop the blindfold while Erin is in front of a big mirror. We can imagine how Erin would be desesperate to see that her old holy clothes have been forever changed into tools of depravation, and how she would look like a total perverse in them... But in the end, she'll start to find them exciting, even if she would know that they are nasty. Unable to repress her desires, she would start to ask Madelynn to modify of all her old wardrobe into sexy versions.
Anyway, I think I will wait for now where the story will go with the next chapters. Ooooh, how impatient I am ! One or two chapters before the new year ? I wasn't expecting this. Many thanks to you, and again thank you to be so close with your readers.
Okay, I'm done with the rough draft of SW chapter 10 and sent it to my editor/proofreader. If any of you want to read it in a hurry, you could email me for it.
ReplyDeleteIf my English was perfect and if I knew well enough all that there is to know about Silver Witch tory, I'd gladly help you... :(
DeleteI hope you have found someone to do the job.
Someone is already helping me do the editing. I was asking if anyone wants to read the rough draft, not help proofread. If anyone wants to read it, I can send it to them. :)
DeleteIn answer to Domino_X :
ReplyDeleteYes, Wendy’s little sister’s whereabouts IS a big problem. I was thinking about it when I was writing my suggestion and planned to find a way to solve the problem but, after my lengthy post, I just forgot to write about it ! ^^
Anyway, in fact this disappearance of a hypothetical younger sister for Wendy is like you have said a nagging question. I can't find many scenarios that would explain this without them being a bit twisted or awkyard.
- The most believable thing I could imagine is that Wendy's little sister (I'll call her Lola, only for an easier and quickier writing) had been gone for some months in another country (or another state if the story is happening in the USA, I don't know anymore if it is mentioned in the story) into a host family because she wanted to follow special studies for her future. Maybe a Lola who, in fact, is a tomboy wanting to become a racing driver or, better, a servicewoman, could be a good idea :
She would have had problems at the "normal" secondary school because she wasn't interested with the usual studies.Thus, maybe she would have started to been a bully at school, or in a less extreme way a girl with so bad records and so much class skipped that the school headmaster had summon her parents to the school so that they could find a solution together. And that's then that Lola would have agreed to leave for a military school, something much more fitting for her.
These schools, I think, are rare enough to explain why Lola could have been away for such a long time. I don't know how life is really going in these institutions, but I believe that even students can't leave just when they want to see their parents ; they are learning the military life, after all...
The more I think about this, the more this scenario makes me remember of an episode from The Simpson show. In the 25th episode of the 8th season (title : The Secret War of Lisa Simpson), Bart leaves for a military school in the same way and for the same reasons, with her sister Lisa. So, maybe this scenario is believable, after all ?
In fact, by following this suggestion, it could bring an interesting character into the story. If Lola is a tomboy, we can imagine that she had constant quarrels with her mother at home, Wendy disapproving of her sister rude behaviour that would not fit a young 12-13 years old girl. Thus, we can imagine that the relation between Lola and Maryy has always been electric and that, even if they are mother and daughter, they are not really liking each other's company.
And so, the brainwashing could bring an interesting turn of event. Lola could be brainwashed to believe these things :
1) If she was acting like a tomboy, it's because she was unconsciously desiring to be a boy so that she could date with girls. Yes, the brainwashing would make her realize that her sexuality has always been, in fact, toward girls. Acting like a boy was a way her subconscious had find to express these feelings. Because, at her age, it's really difficult to accept her true nature, she began to act like that, because it would have been a shame for her to look like a girl, and date with another girl. She could have not bear the looks and comments from the other people.
ReplyDelete2) The brainwashing would insist that her mother loves her, that she knows what is good for her, and that she could confess her feelings to her. Thus, Lola would (with some difficulties, of course) say to Maryy that she "thinks" she is a homosexual and that she loves girls. Mary (brainwashed too, of course), would act kindly and be secretly proud that Lola had the courage to go out of the closet, and to trust her own mother by telling her this secret.
3) Because Lola would be brainwashed to trust her mother, Mary would tell her that she doesn't have to be ashamed of her sexuality, and that in fact her mother will help her to unleash her full potential so that she would seduce other girls. She would start by telling her that girls of her age are not meant to act, dress, or speak like adults. Moreover, they don't have to act like rude people, like "disgusting boys" ; it would be a turn off for all the other girls. If she wants to attract girls, she has to emphasize her "young" sex appeal, to bring it to its extremities. And so, that's why Mary would start to "coach" Lola into becoming a lolita : a girl seemingly innocent, with flashy children or preteens clothes, little boobs, pigtails or bunches, cheap preteens makeup, cheap and flashy accessories, etc... Of course, Mary herself would be given some advices and inductions by Serena to perfectly brainwash her youngest daughter... We can imagine that Lola would be given, somewhat, the same advices that Wendy had from Sarah : not "acting" like a lolita, but "being" a lolita all the time. In the end, Lola would be so braiwashed to act like a Loli that she would become a loli : innocent about sex, not knowing the limits of what is love and what is perversion, and believing what the adults are saying to her.
- During her "training", Lola would be given the most important advice : a lolita is never doing the first step in a relation ! She can be seducting; give some hints that she's curious about sex and that she wants to make love with another person, but never she can be the initiator (or else, it would mean that she is not innocent... and that would break the illusion). We can then imagine that one of the goal given by mary to Lola would be to seduce another girl an make love to her without beginning the action, by acting like an innocent child. And the most conservative this girls (or woman) could be, the most it would be a success if Lola could seduce her. That would mean she is the perfect lolita who can seduce any girl she wants.
ReplyDeleteAnd who could be the better candidate that Erin ? We can easily imagine that Mary and Erin have already encountered each other. Either one day at the church, or on day that Erin had come to pick up Madelynn at Mary's home, or whatever. So Mary would know what kind of woman is Erin. She then could phone to her and pretext a service : she has to go somewhere but there is absolutely nobody to "babysit" her youngest daughter. Thus, Erin and Lola would be alone at home. We can imagine the contradiction here : Lola thinks that Erin is a prude conservative woman, so she unleashes her full "loli" potential to seduce her, of course without initiate anything sexual or explicit. Erin, on her side, is believing that Lola is an innocent young girl... but by her brainwashing she is struggling with her horniness. She doesn't want to "stain" a young virgin, she doesn't want to corrupt her into sapphic relationship, she doesn't want to go against the law and against her religion by having a sexual affair with a minor... but nethertheless, all of this "forbidden" and blasphemous thoughts are making her extremely horny.
We can imagine that nothing would happen at the first day. But erin, unable to contain her horniness, would be restless and always masturbating about this event. Madelynn would order her to say what is causing her change of behaviour and, of course, being submissive, Erin would comply. Madelynn would then order Erin to phonecall at Mary's home and ask for Lola, under the pretext that she has forgotten something important at her home and must come to take it. Madelynn would give strict instructions to her mother : she would have to dress herself in a seductive way, to welcome Lola in a seductive pose, and say to her "She had forgot to give her a goodbye kiss the other day." And Erin would have to fully frenchkiss Lola, and then fuck her (even if Lola would not agree... but she would not object, of course !).
In her mind, Erin would have commited horrible actions :
ReplyDelete- a seemingly rape
- taking a young girl virginity (with a dildo)
- sex with a minor
- sapphic relationship
We can easily imagine how Erin would begin her slow fall into depravation and submission after such an event... We can also imagine that Madelynn is secretly filming the scene, and keep it as a mean to blackmail her own mother : if she doesn't accept her dominance, she would send this video to Mary. Of course, at one point, we can even imagine an event where the video would be nevertheless shown to Mary, and where this one would not take offend (it was her idea to bring Erin and Lola together, normal !). But she would ask erin to take her responsabilities and, from now on, being always there for her young daughter. and why not, after all, oblige her to marry Lola ? That could lead to a wedding with Mary/Wendy, and Erin/Lola, alltogether at the same ceremony.
Well well well.... A reaaaaally long post, as usual. and moreover, a long post for wrinting about a pure speculation because in no way there is (for the moment) a slightest clue that MasterMeat would accept to modify "Wendy's big sister" into "Wendy's little sister." I was just writing to show how a young sister could bring, easily, an interesting subplot. I think that everything is believable, more or less, no ?
Anyway, MasterMeat, don't feel forced to follow my lead. It's your story and, if you don't like what I've suggested or if you have better plans for a big sister, then it doesn't matter if you discard my suggestion. At least... maybe this post would has given some exciting thoughts ! ^^
Youpla why don't you write your own story? I'm sure literotica.com would post it.
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Interesting way to introduce a younger sister, Youpla. But, since the mention of a big sister going away to college happened way back in a past chapter, I think people might have already had the idea of a big sister ingrained in their minds. Initially, I wasn't planning to add any sister character at all. The characters that were away from the family for reasons of work, college, or divorce are mainly for making the story easy to write. I'm going to stick with the bigger sister for now. The lolita character has to be introduced another way.
DeleteI understand.
DeleteThe only problem is that if at one point you wish to introduce the lolita fetish, you'll have to create another new character being a young girl (12-13 years old). Even if I had suggested some lolita's behaviour and dress code for Wendy's big sister... eeer, in fact, the more I think about it, the more I think that a lolita will have to be a young preteen. Going with loli theme on a grown up person is kind of unbelievable. The biggest advantage with creating a younger sister was, like I've said, killing two birds with one stone. Three birds, in fact, because it would have brought possible incestual relationships with a really young girl.
So, if you want to bring a lolita into Brainy Teen one day, I don't think of many other options. Maybe a cousine, a niece, or some girl that Madelynn or Wendy have to babysitt one day ? Or a young altar girl that would have to be, under Madelynn's orders, Erin's goal. Erin would have to seduce her, bring her into lesbianism, twist the religion's teachings, etc... Erin's true depravation would show in this act, where she would be unable to resist in fucking and corrupting the most pure and innocent girl that she knows in the church.
Well, don't let us wait too long for the next chapter, please ! ^^
Why does the lolita have to be Wendy's younger sister? Why not Wendy dominate her older sister forcing her to role play a lolita? Make her dress and act like a 13 year old girl in private and public. Might make for a very erotic story line. Just think a college aged female having to act and dress like a lolita, having to go out and hanging out with other 13 year old girls.
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Like I've said, I find it rather difficult, in fact, to imagine that a girl who has the age of a university student (20 years old, approximatively) can pass for an innocent lolita. Yes, she could always wear lolita's clothes, but it would be more of a costume than a believable fashion style. To say the things in short, it would be awkyard, and not really appealing in a story where there is somewhat logic interactions between the characters and society.
DeleteMoreover, I can't imagine Wendy dominating her older sister : it's not in her character and I clearly don't see why she would want to do this. Lastly, a 20 years old woman going with 13 years old girls... No, that won't do, nobody would believe this. And MasterMeat would have to find a GOOD reason to explain how some young pre-teenagers would accept someone like this in their group.
Nope. Like I say, and even if at one point I had imagined Wendy's older sister as a lolita, I think the role is clearly more suitable for a 12-13 years old young girl. By this mean, her innocence about sex, would it be faked or not, would not shock anyone, so as her fashion choices.
I think it's best to wait for MasterMeat to make the older sister character appear in the story. For the lolita fetsih... well, we have to wait too. Even if I loved by Lola storyline, snif... :(
Well there is the Silver Witch. If I recall early chapters did state that Emma had a younger sister. So the Lola fetish could be introduced there.
DeleteLooking forward to SW MM ty:) I was thinking the best was in the past x
ReplyDeleteBobeGirl, I'm not sure what you mean by that. Are you saying the past chapters were better or you like the past ideas?
DeleteYou could always make the older sister a lesbian...she might even be quite happy with the changes at home when she next visits.
DeleteMadelynn (old version) seems like the kind of girl who would have been making money by babysitting for neighbours, I'm sure she might be happy to take it back up.
Looking forward to SW - any idea when the next chapter will be up?
In fact, why not creating an older sister who could be a problem in Sarah's and Serena's plot ? What I mean is that, currently, every girls or women who are brainwashed by them is powerless, and helplessly transformed into a lesbian, with all sort of fetishes. i don't know where it could lead, but just imagine that something would go wrong with Wendy's older siter brainwashing, or even that she is aware of Serena and Sarah's whereabouts. That could bring a bit of suspense into the story, and procure a sort of threat for the masterminds who are for the moment without real enemy. I don't say that Wendy's big sister would win the fight or that Sarah and Serena would see all their work with the other characters destroyed, but seeing someone who could stand up against Sarah and Sereana (even if she loses at the end, at least she could be a real pain in the ass for them and make them change their plans) could bring a change of pace an bring some spices in the story.
DeleteAnonymous, I'm not sure when the next chapter for SW would be up. I don't want to rush my editor. He works at his own pace. Like what I've said before, if you want to read it, I could email the rough draft to you.
DeleteMM Nooo, I was just worrying that the story didn't have a future since it had been a while. I was clumsily stating my happiness that a new chapter would shortly appear:) Take care x
DeleteMasterMeat, I would like to read it too. I just can't wait for next part :-)
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ReplyDeleteI have a 14 year old niece that dresses, acts, and looks like a 22 year old she's gone into night clubs and no one has asked for an ID. So if a 14 year old can look like a 22 year old then why is it such a stretch for a 22 year old to look like a 14 year old? Besides Brainy teen is a fantasy mind control story.
You can't imagine the embarrassment it would be for a 22 year old would feel being forced to go shopping in the girls department for clothes that make her look like a teenager then having to wear those clothes and act like 14 year old 24/7? Then the added embarrassment of going out and making new 14/13 year old friends and then having to introduce those new friends to her younger sister and mother while still acting 13/14?
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What works in one sense doesn't neccesarly work in the other one. I'm aware that some pre-teenagers can look like they are 4-5 years older. They are what we call "jailbait" girls. But this is because some teenagers grow faster thtan others. This is puberty, nothing else.
DeleteOn the contrary, a 22 years old woman has her body fully developed. She can't, for God's sake, pass for some girl who is 8-10 years younger than she is. Her breasts are in full blosom, her height is taller, even her body hasn't the frail aspect of a pre-teen. You can verify this with all the "lolita" porn on the web : when a 20 years old woman tries to look like a lolita, could it be with clothes or behaviour, it never fools the audience. It just becomes a costume fantasy, something that is not believable.
Storywise, a 22 years old woman going with 13-14 years old teenagers would not go really well with the story. Wendy's older sister would be immediatly seen, on the spot, as someone who is not "normal". It would draw the attention on herself and on her family. The parents of the teenagers and the teenagers themselves would not accept someone like this. She would not pass for a lolita but for a weirdo, point.
Or else, MasterMeat would have to introduce a group of pre-teenagers who are already under Sarah's and Serena's influence. But that would be a lot of work and a lot of new characters for something as trivial as this.
Nope, I think that, given the logic that is always present in brainy Teen, the lolita fetish can only go well with a young girl. That would spare not oly a lot of work, but that would also follow a much more simple route for introducing and the lolita fetish, and the character who will be the lolita.
That's why I personally think that Wendy's sister, if she is indeed older, would have to picture another fantasy. Why not the trashy prostitute I've suggested some times before ?
Hope everyone here had a great Thanksgiving, and enjoying the current Holiday season. In regards to the Lolita fetish for Wendy's sister. Just because MM has stated Wendy's sister is the older one doesn't mean that it can't work.
DeleteAs you stated generally it would be strange for a college age woman to hang around 13-14 year old young girls. However if the situation is right it can work out. For example, when Wendy's sister gets back from college during a break she volunteers to work at a community youth center or church youth group, or maybe when she gets back it's during the summer season and during that time she gets a temp job at popular hangouts such as shopping centers, movie theatres, a summer camp, or other places. That way she can be around the young girls she's being programmed to desire but at the same time she can secretly act out some of it.
Any way it's just something to mull over. For me the trashy prostitute just seems too similar to what Wendy and possibly Erin is going through with their lesbian conversion. The biggest fear I have with Wendy's sister is that it's one more character for MM to juggle and keep track of. That's why I keep making the suggestion of having Wendy's older sister already under the complete control of Serena and Hecate by the time she's introduced into the series. Just use her character as a tool to further push Wendy, Mary, Madelynn, and Erin into lesbians vs. becoming one more person added to where readers are left wondering as to what her fate would be.
In the end it's going to be up to MM on how and when Wendy's sister gets introduced into the Brainy Teen series. Any way I wish everyone here a Happy Holidays and hopefully we will continue seeing Silver Witch and Brainy Teen updates into the next year.
I think I possibly explained my point of view bad enough. The problem is not finding a way to dress Wendy's sister in a lolita fashion style. There are plenty of scenarii where she could be brainwashed to accept the idea of dressing herself like a teenager. The problem is not here...
DeleteEach character in Brainy Teen is brainwashed toward a fetish and a new dress code, I've already explained that in a previous post. But each new dress code is "acceptable" by our society. even if dressing as a gothic is somewhat strange for some people, it is not so alien. Same for a girl who wears micro skirt, or one dressing only in red with lots of makeup. Those are, after all, choices that define a person's life style. Even if some don't agree with someone being pierced everywhere and tatooed, it doesn't mean the person is seen as crazy or rejected by the society.
But lolita fetish is much, much different. Because it is mainly centered on the character's age. A 13 years old girl dressed with flashy clothes, acting like a child, and being a bit seductive, that could pass for everyone. Because she is young, because she might not know what sex innuendo is, because she loves this dress code and doens't where it to be a slut fucking anyone. But, if a grown up woman acts like this, then in no way she would seem normal for people around her.Because everyone knows that a 20-22 years old woman knows about sex, has surely already made love with someone, and because she knows the dress code in the society. She knows that if a gothic could pass in front of some people, a 20 years old lolita would not. She would be automatically seen as someone who has some screw balls, and in absolutely no way anybody would believe that she is innocent and is a real lolita.
So yes, she could get along well with some pre-teenagers, after all. But there is no way, again, that these teens would see her as someone equal. Maybe they would have some fun, maybe they would enjoy her company... but Wendy's sister would always be "The 22 years old woman who acts as a teen, but who isn't one of them". And don't forget the parents : what would they think of someone like this who hangs around with their children ? It would bring too much things in the story to work out and think over, only for a character.
And in that way, I sort of agree with your point of view : having one more character to juggle with is not an easy option. But I don't agree with Wendy's sister being already corrupted. For me, it would emphasize the fact that the character is being brought from nowhere, only for story's commodities, as if it would say "Well, I have no idea for Wendy's sister role and corruption, so let it be that way". That would be really awkward.
And if I insist on a "real" lolita being 12-14 years old, there is another reason : not only this is much believable, but also stories with pre-teens lolitas (and possibly lesbian incest with them) are rae. This is not a so common thing, and that would add much more originality in the story.
Anyway, like you've said, let's wait what MasterMeat will do with her.
Speaking of which : MasterMeat, you've said that we could possibly see a new chapter for Brainy Teen before the end of the year. Can we still believe you ? :)
Yes, there will be another chapter for Brainy Teen before the end of the year. ^_^
DeleteMind if I ask what is taking it so long? I've had the pleasure of reading the "alpha version" more than a month ago now. Thought you would publish it in a week or so.
Delete@Youplay, I see you're point from a story logic point of view that having a young college student constantly hanging out with young teen girls can or will be seen as weird at best and not appropriate by a good deal of people. I mentioned it before but if you're wanting to see a lola fetish maybe it would be best to see it happen in Silver Witch since Emma has a younger sister that fits the criteria and can be corrupted.
ReplyDeleteThis talk about a lola fetish did have me thinking on one thing, and MM can probably clear this up. Didn't MM mention that one site had an issue with his stories because the age of consent was vague. So if he introduces a lola fetish into Brainy Teen and Silver Witch, which would have a character clearly be the legal age of consent, wouldn't that limit as to where he can publish his stories.
@MasterMeat, Hurrah for another Brainy Teen chapter before the year's end :D
Just out of curiosity did you get any feedback from your editor on chapter 10 to Silver Witch. I liked the advanced copy and just wondering if you got any feedback from your editor and planning to publish it soon on your site. Any thanks for the update and can't wait for the new Brainy Teen chapter.
I'm still waiting for a response from my editor. Dunno what's going on. Regardless, I'll publish SW within a week with my own revisions.
DeleteThanks for the Silver Witch status update MM :)
DeleteHave another question if you don't mind answering. Any way you could tell us if the Brainy Teen chapter that you're working on is going to continue directly from the events from chapter 18 or is it going to be a Madelynn-centric chapter?
It's going to be mostly about Madelynn and her mom.
DeleteOooooo! I love Madelynn chapters! (Her unsuspecting transformation into a pierced fetishwear clad goth/punk dominatrix from a cute nerd-girl is simply EPIC... and I cant wait to see what happens to her mom.)
ReplyDeleteNow I am temporally challenged but I think this means a SW and a BT before then end of 2013:) If so then I am a happy bunny:) lols x
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It does look that way and since that's the case that would mean that MM is working on both chapters at the moment. We probably don't say it enough but we really are thankful and do appreciate that you take the time to get these stories out to your fans MM. Hope everyone here is having a joyous holiday and will have an awesome 2014.
I had a thought on how to deal with Wendy's older sister. If introducing her into the story now would cause you plot problems or distract from the main thrust of the story, you could simply avoid it.
ReplyDeleteIf you make her a "daddy's girl", she could simply become estranged from her mother when she finds out they are divorcing and when Wendy defends her moms decision her sister then could refuse to have any further contact with either of them. This would have the advantage of allowing you to move the plot forward without adding any further complexities (or characters) for now. It also leaves open the possibility of introducing her into the story at a later date.
I was planning to publish the latest SW with my own revisions, but the editor that I was waiting for had just sent me the edited draft. Now I have to work on it more before releasing it. :)
ReplyDeleteHopefully the revisions don't force you break the Silver Witch chapter down like you had to do with the last Brainy Teen chapter.
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ReplyDeleteStumbled across this vimeo link and thought I would share it, if it's okay with you MM. It's the lesbian sex scene from the movie "Blue is the Warmest Color" and when I saw it the blue haired girl kind of made me think of goth Madelynn. She's probably not the exact image you had in mind with Madelynn's goth look, but I thought it was cute.
ReplyDeletehttp://vimeo.com/78444249
password is blueisthewarmestcolor
Nice clip! Thanks for sharing. I think the girl without the blue hair is the cutest. :)
DeleteSeasons Greetings, and I wish you a Merry Christmas Mastermeat. Also want to extend the holiday wishes and merriment towards everyone that stops by here. Take care and have an awesome Christmas and hopefully that leads to a very joyful new year.
ReplyDeleteMerry Christmas and happy new year everyone! ^_^
ReplyDeleteI missed the Christmas a little, but Happy 2014 - may the chapters roll of course lols:) x
ReplyDeleteNot 2014 yet, but yeah here's to a awesome 2014 to everyone here. Hopefully it involves continuing to read new chapters to Brainy Teen and Silver Witch on top of whatever your New Year's Wishes and Resolution will be.
DeleteSweet! New chapter to Silver Witch is up. Hopefully that means that the new Brainy Teen chapter will follow soon. Definitely enjoying how Emma is struggling with Galatea's influence. Emma using what magic spells she knew to protect herself and her family when Jennifer discovered that she was a witch but instead it ends up leading her further into lesbian corruption. Also on top manipulating Emma's mind to seek out girlfriends it seems that Galatea is trying to hook her up with her own recent converts, Janet.
ReplyDeleteI also like the fact that Candice's coven isn't all goody goody, sunshine and lollipops and there's a hint of greed and desire for power within the leadership. More fuel for the fire in regards to Candice's converting over to Galatea's coven.
A one suggestion that I would like to make for future chapters of Silver Witch. This chapter introduced Emma unlocking a level when she transformed into a lesbian magic princess, which granted her larger breasts. Maybe for a future level the lesbian magic princess transformation grants Emma a young adult body. At first maybe she thinks she could do some good with it. For example she thinks she could use it to get a part time job to help her family out or help her friends out when a situation calls for an adult being present. However Emma isn't fully aware of what it entails for example to summon and transform into the adult body requires Emma to commit a lesbian act. Also in order to maintain it Emma has to constantly think lesbian thoughts or else she reverts back to her original body.
I'm also wondering if Emma's sister, Ella, who was mentioned in Chapter 3 of Silver Witch, will come into play in future chapters. For example Galatea tells Emma that there's magic that is flowing in her family's bloodline and given how rare magic users are in the modern world. That she's has no choice but to also convert her sister, Ella, over to her coven in the name of magical self preservation. Of course Emma objects but Galatea manages to twist things around in her favor.
Any way great chapter as always MM and can't wait to read more. Thanks for the update and hope you and your loved ones have an awesome 2014.
"unlocking a level when she transformed into a lesbian magic princess, which granted her larger breasts" - LOL. When you sum it up like that the story feels seriously superficial :)
DeleteTY MM 4 SW CH ♥ IT :) Happy 14 x
ReplyDeleteGreat chapter update to Silver Witch Mastermeat it was a very good read. However I was looking forward towards reading the new Brainy Teen chapter vs. the Silver Witch chapter. Believe you mentioned you try and have it out by the end of the year but I guess it got held up. Is it possible to give us a rough estimate on when it might be released?
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Thank you very much for this new Silver Witch chapter, MasterMeat. I don't knwo the story in as much details as Brainy Teen's, so I can't give a precise feedback. I will just say that I really loved the "kiss induction" with the unknown redhead. It was exciting to see how she had her beliefs and tastes transformed with each kiss. Moreover, when you give a track of the "kiss number", it's exciting AND fun because, before the event, we can try to imagine what will happen at the 1àth kiss, for example. Personally, I would have loved to see Emma go wild with her spell and give something like 40 kiss to the redhead girl ; I wonder what would have happened with such a strong horniness...
ReplyDeleteLike Anonymous said in the previous post, I'm curious about the next Brainy Teen chapter. Is it finished, or does your editor prevents us again of reading it ? If that's so, perhaps you can still post the unachieved version, like you did for Chapter 18 ?
Hope to have some news from you and to read the sequel to the story very soon !
And.... HAPPY NEW YEAR 2014 !!!
Has there been any discussion as to writing a prequel to Brainy Teen? I'd be interested in making the attempt.
ReplyDeleteIf there's a way to reach MM, I'd like to discuss it. (badliar75@gmail.com)
There was some talk a while ago about doing a side story involving Brainy Teen and reader contributions, but the project feel through. Don't see any harm in trying revive the project, maybe a side story/spin-off story could be beneficial. For example, we could use Wendy's sister as a character in the spin-off it's something to mull over.
DeleteA prequel for Brainy Teen sounds interesting. Guess my email is hard to find on Simon's site. My email address is yourname666@yahoo.com.
DeleteSent an email, MM. Looking forward to getting this started. - B.L.
DeleteNoticed a typo in the email address in my pervious post! It's yournameis666@yahoo.com. Sorry about the mistake. I sent you an email.
DeleteSome news that you could share, MasterMeat ? I'm waiting the next Brainy Teen chapter more and more as each day passes !
ReplyDeleteAbout 7K words now. Having writer's block.
DeleteBummer to hear, hopefully it's not too bad. The only thing I can think of in regards to writer's block is to sometimes take a break, step back, and come back later. There's also of trying to work backwards. Think of how you want the chapter to end and then work from there. Any way thanks for the update and hopefully you'll chisel that writer's block into an awesome work of art :)
DeleteAaaww, too bad to hear... I hope you'll be able to find again your inspiration. Until now, you have always written wonderful chapters so don't feel stressed : I'm sure that you'll be able to produce something that will, again, be a blast to read.
ReplyDeleteAnd if you need advices or anything that could help you, just ask us. Who knows ? Maybe we'll give you some nice ideas or highlight some spots that you never thought of.
Just keep us informed of how things are going, ok ?
By the way, another picture that made me think of what Mary is fated to become :
http://www.imagefap.com/photo/1158386924/?pgid=&gid=4511961&page=0
Nice, isn't it ? ^^
Sooooo, I'm coming back at the front. Any news you can Share, MasterMeat ?
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